Jump to content

Photons, momentum and mass

Featured Replies

I have a question about photons. How can they have momentum but be massless. If they are massless, them they should have no momentum, and vice versa, right? p=mv. Or am I just applying classical mechanics laws to something I shouldn't?

Because with photons we are not talking classical momentum, you can work out momentum using p = hf/c and I think there's another one, possible h/f or something, I can't remember off by heart.

Any moving object has a momentum, that's logic... however you are using a classical equation for a non-classical particle (a photon).

 

We know that (for a photon):

 

e^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2

 

but for a photon we have no mass, this results in:

 

e^2 = (pc)^2

 

or for easier viewing but losing technicality

 

e=pc

 

which is rearranged as

 

p=e/c

 

but now we must define e, so we use the equation e=hf so we get

 

p=hf/c

Oh yeah, I looked it up... about when I mentioned the other formula, it is

 

[math]p = \frac{h}{\lambda}[/math]

p=mv. Or am I just applying classical mechanics laws to something I shouldn't?

 

Your reasoning does indeed go south for this reason. As we learn from quantum mechanics, [math]p= h / \lambda[/math], regardless of whether a particle has mass or not.

 

It's funny you bring this up because just minutes ago I was reading over a beautiful presentation of just this very thing in a free e-book:

 

http://www.geocities.com/zcphysicsms/chap3.htm

  • 2 weeks later...

If you use higher dimensional theory, is light not consider a vibration in the 4th Spatial Dimension (aka The 5th Dimension)? If you consider higher dimensional theory, look up when the kaluza-klein theory (which had flaws of course, but lead to the string theory).

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.