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Friends, Please go through the below logically explained content patiently before coming to any conclusions. BRAMHA Abstract: The creation is done by the BRAMHA (PARABRAMHA). The creation is the MAYA and the ATMAs bound together. The creation was planned completely before it was started. Key Words: Creation, PARABRAMHA, MAYA, ATMA, BRAMHA. Introduction: The knowledge of the very root(s) of this creation is not available to man till date and it looks impossible. But, understanding that is deeper than what conventional (materialistic) science can tell about the creation and the most knowable depth is presented below. Creation model is presented that satisfies all observations in the nature and also the same model is derived again from some observations. A lot of not known before knowledge is given and many known questions are answered. Part 1 Creation Model (satisfies all observations): Many things are not explainable by the conventional scientific logic which does not accept many truths like miracles, omens, etc and tries to answer every question with not a very open view. At most, a conventional researcher on an electron can say that an electron is made up of quarks or strings or go to a bit more detail. Why exactly does a string behave as it does and what is it made from? Yet, there are only partially convincing scientific models with still many puzzles unsolved. What could be done so far is only converting one question in to another or multiple other. If we keep digging for answers in the conventional approach, we will reach a stop where we have a lot of questions without solutions ahead. An atomic particle penetrates infinite barrier wall when it is not able to jump over it, which is in-explainable with conventional logic. There are working magics. So, many things that we know are not interpretable in our minds through materialistic conventional logic. Even the things that we think as understood well are not actually interpretable with conventional logic if analyzed at a deeper level. So, all the things are happening miraculously or in a manner un-interpretable through materialistic conventional logic. Any illogical thing is possible to happen if it is not actually happening but it is only an illusion to mind as if it is happening. For example; a man can have wings, light may travel in a zigzag manner through space, things may be repelled by the gravitational force and any law of nature is possible to exist in dream (imagination) without need for logic in those happenings. The objects and rules are applicable in illusions also in the same way. That means, everything we sense or perceive in this universe is an illusion without need for logic. If a thing that can be perceived in this universe is not an illusion, it cannot exist because it cannot exist logically. Any rules seen in the illusion universe are just the rules in illusion, not the logically (really) existing rules. It is a rule in the illusion that there exists gravitational force of attraction between any two objects. Actually objects are illusion and the gravitational force too. When you talk to your friend (illusion), you act to him as you will (think, decide). So, ‘you’ are ‘a willing object undergoing illusion’. When you will to walk, you walk (get walking illusion). When you will to talk, you talk (get talking illusion). But, it will not rain by your will to have rain. That means, ‘you’ and the ‘illusion’ are bound together with certain rules of the illusion. You get the illusion without creating it. That means, there are at least two objects (you and the illusion creating system) in relation to the illusion. So, there may be one to any number of illusion imposed objects like ‘you’ under the illusion creating system. The illusion creating system is called as BRAMHA, ‘object having will and undergoing illusion’ is called as ATMA and the illusion is called as MAYA. The logic or theory of the reality of the BRAMHA is beyond our (ATMA’s) scope as ATMAs are objects being done by the BRAMHA and are not at a higher or equal level as the BRAMHA or in a level to observe and understand the reality of the BRAMHA. The scientific knowledge understandable by us (ATMAs) is the rules in the illusion which we (they) feel. Take the MAYA and the BRAMHA ‘you’ belong to for consideration. Analysis of the number of MAYAs or BRAMHAs is beyond the scope and known needs. Consider the case of many ATMAs in the MAYA. What happens in the illusion (MAYA) when you are having conversation with your friend is explained as follows. As an ATMA is bound to the illusion for its experiences, ATMA to ATMA direct interaction does not exist. You do illusion conversation with your illusion-friend (not real friend ATMA). At the same time, ‘your friend ATMA’ does illusion conversation with illusion-you (not ‘you’, your illusion). ‘Your illusion’ and ‘your friend illusion’ are in the only one MAYA which is being done by BRAMHA. So, ‘you’ do (will) as ‘your illusion’ does and ‘your friend ATMA’ does (wills) as ‘your friend-illusion’ does. Here, either the MAYA should be behaving in synch with the wills of independent ATMAs or the ATMAs should be willing in synch with the MAYA as executed by the BRAMHA. All living beings do not take birth and death on their will. Many of their thoughts and dreams come without their known effort. This means, all ATMAs’ will is controlled to be in synch with MAYA. So, if the ATMAs are having wills in synch with the MAYA, they should be done by the same system which does the MAYA. So, the ATMAs and the MAYA are bonded and are done by the BRAMHA. So, the creation consists of the MAYA and the ATMAs, which are bonded and done by the BRAMHA. It is not possible to know if there is only myself (ATMA) in this creation or if there are many ATMAs. I cannot know if the friend I am talking to in this MAYA is really associated with an ATMA. At least one ATMA (I) is in this creation. The creation is continuing over time as we know. The state of the creation in the next instant must be pre planned by the BRAMHA for the creation to have the next state, because creation with MAYA and ATMAs is being executed by the BRAMHA. That means, creation is being executed (done/run) as per the pre decision (plan) by the BRAMHA at least for the next instant. The rules of the illusion, which sometimes decide the forthcoming incidents, also are effective after a preplanned starting incident. The illusion rules themselves are existing because of being planned in advance. We predict many things that happen in the future like the weather forecast, the human population estimation, technology growth estimation, etc. But, we do not predict things like just the weather. We predict even future of people and countries based on horoscope, palmistry, numerology, etc. Many times we know things in advance by the omens of the nature (signs that indicate auspicious and inauspicious happenings). So, the state of the creation was not planned for just the next instant. It was planned for a long period in the future. There cannot be partial planning of the future incidents (state of the creation) for any instant in the future, because all incidents are interlinked and so non-preplanned incidents always affect the pre planned incidents. In a partially planned creation period, a set of not preplanned incidents occurring before and alongside a preplanned incident can fail the happening of the preplanned incident or the successful execution of the preplan requires change of the rules of the illusion, which is contradictory to the practical happening. So, from whatever point till whatever point of time in the creation was planned in one preplan, it was planned completely. In the creation where there are continuing incidents at any instant in the midcourse of the creation, the start and end points of a preplan happen to be the start and end points of the creation itself. Because, preplan cannot be limited up to a midcourse point of time in the creation from the start point of creation as many incomplete and progressing incidents would be occurring at any instant after the start of the creation; without change of the illusion rules or it being the end of the creation. So, the creation was planned completely for the entire period of the creation, before the creation was started. Part 2 Creation model (from some observations): We predict many things that happen in the future like the weather forecast, the human population estimation, technology growth estimation, etc. These predictions are based on a current incident and its known effects. But, we do not predict things like just the weather. We predict even future of people and countries based on horoscope, palmistry, numerology, etc. Many times we know things in advance by the omens of the nature (signs that indicate auspicious and inauspicious happenings). The life incidents on the earth and the position of the planets are independent. Synchronization between the position of the planets and the life incidents on the earth is not possible unless some system executes both of them with synchronization. So the creation is not running on its own. It is being executed by a system. This system is called the BRAMHA. ‘I’ do willing and ‘I’ has experience of the environment. The object ‘I’ and its experienced environment which are in the creation are made by the BRMHA. The willing and experience of ‘I’ are executed by the BRAMHA. Let ‘I’ be called as an ATMA. The experience of an ATMA is controlled. So, the experience of an ATMA is a perceptional imposition. The experience of an ATMA cannot be real, because real things do not obey the control of BRAMHA as they are real by themselves. Perceptional imposition on the ATMA(s) is called the Illusion or the MAYA. So, the creation consists of the MAYA and the ATMAs, which are bonded and done by the BRAMHA. (The other derived understandings given in the part 1 are applicable here too) Corollary 1: The position of the planets at the time of birth is taken to tell the future of a man. Here planets do not have any influence on the man. Planets are just indicators of the already planned destiny of a man. If a man is going to face difficulties in his life for the next one year as planned by the BRAMHA, it is just indicated by the corresponding positioning of the planets by the BRAMHA at his birth time. This is co-plan for the man and the planets together. It is a repetitive rule of the creation that Saturn in a certain position is bad for a man and in a different position is good. So, the incidents on the earth happen in synchronization with the positions of the planets; and the incidents over time are inter-synchronized for the synchronization between the positions of the planets and incidents to be possible. Similar is the case with omens that signal the auspicious and inauspicious happenings. Corollary 2: Since the material world we see (sense/observe) is only illusion, many different worlds(universes) can be experienced without displacing our body in the creation, as visiting a different world (universe) requires just switching of the illusion an ATMA is perceiving. Corollary 3: Within this creation, the ATMAs are being done with changing happiness and sadness through sense organs and continuous happiness in the state of meditation. Happiness and sadness are perceptions of the ATMAs and so internal to the designed creation being executed by the BRAMHA. So, why this creation was designed as it is and being executed by the BRAMHA is not knowable. Reference: http://theknowledgeone.com/documents/Bramha.htm

Usefulness is not necessarily in economics. It can be in anyway. the knowledge "who walks how much and in what areas of the world" is different from the knowledge "a specific person 10000 km away walked 5 steps more than me". The earlier case is a very minute subset of the later case because the first case does not require study of every person on the earth. So we have to know how much is enough.

Actually 'Sastra' is the word used as equivalent to 'Science' in English. In sanskrit, 'Gyan'=knowledge. 'Vigyan'=awareness of the importance of knowledge. 'Vedhas' are called as 'Sastra' as frequently as they are called 'Vedhas' while another synonym of Vedha is knowledge. And in schools we were taught that Science='Sastra'. So Science=knowledge was the understanding. I am not doing this reply with a soft corner to Sanskrit. Sanskrit words cover at least as many and likely more meanings and expressions than English. Traditional vedic philosophy in India has very strict and mature measures in dealing with knowledge. Most of the Sanskrit definitions and words I know happen to be very precise. Recently, when I was switching through different TV channels, I vaguely heard one vedic priest telling that according to Sastra(veda), definition for science is 'useful matter / useful information'. .. I really did not listen to it properly at that time. But later I found it to be very meaningful. I had independently developed the definition for science by then already, but with the word 'useful' missing in my definition. But, then I took the word 'Useful' in to the definition I was developing, to make a complete definition. Let me give an example to demonstrate what is useful knowledge and what is not. The observation that today I walked 5 steps more than the person living 10,000 kilo meters away from me is useless. (You may argue that who knows if even this information can be useful, there is probability. It is very less likely to be useful. We do not put our focus on such things obviously. So by our commonsense, we know that this knowldge is useless.) That is how we differentiate scientific knowledge and non-sense with in knowledge. Usefulness is actually the most important aspect of science and so any definition of science is incomplete with out using the word 'useful'.

I got excellent helping comments here. Thank you all for your contribution. Now I understand want happened: In Indian languages, a word which is equivalent to 'Science' in English is used as synonym to 'Knowledge'. Also, worlds most ancient script 'Vedha' has synonyms 'Knowledge' and 'Science'. So I had strongly in my mind that Science=Knowledge. But majority of the world currently sees science as the set of processes around knowledge rather than the knowledge itself. So the definition I developed sounds a bit odd. So, I am with drawing this definition. I am making it as the meaning of 'Scientific knowledge' instead of science. But I will purify the description to take in to account the meaningful comments I received from different people.

Further to the explanation given in the original post, If we consider medical research, every finding may not be useful and a medicine may go extinct because of another more useful medicine down the line. But we holistically consider the medical research findings as useful always and everywhere. Even usefulness is relativistic. Some knowledge is very useful, some is very less useful. A reliable belief can have a little un-certainty of reliance and belief.

I was just trying to give an example. Usefulness is relativistic too. We can call a less likely useful thing as useless. Ok..can we consider 'the exact length of the sleeve of the shirt of my next next neighbor house dweller' as useless fact? It depends on how anyone wants to consider science as. Processes, experiments, methods, enterprises, etc were not considered as science until recently. They were considered makers or keepers of science. The very meaning of the word 'science' is 'knowledge'. For example, Person B can call an animal XYZ as 'Cow', while Person A calls PQR as 'cow' .. if there is no common understanding.

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Aliens do not have as much significance as God has in the society.

Science The sun rises in the sky. We do not doubt our brain and eyes in accepting this, since living becomes very difficult if we doubt them. We accept the observations which are reliable for life, irrespective of the facts. We trust our sense organs and brain. When an observation is reliable, it is not mandatory to know the facts of that observation. An observation is reliable unless there is an alternative observation. ‘Sun travels from east to west of the earth in the sky’ was a reliable observation until it was observed that ‘the earth spins’. It cannot be disproved that your brain is under the control of a data injecting system, where your environment is only an imaginary creation of that system. It is impossible to know the facts of an observation. There are always unsolvable puzzles if we go in deep to find the facts of an observation. All reliable observations are reliable beliefs, because we do not know the facts of the observations. But, all reliable beliefs are not reliable observations. Some reliable beliefs are derived from reliable observations, but themselves are not observations. Many presented models of the universe are reliable beliefs based on reliable observations. The beliefs on the basis of reliable observations, which do not have alternative reliable observations, have to be relied on. Because I have been observing that the sun has been rising in the sky every day, I reliably believe that the sun rises in the sky tomorrow also. There are facts too among what we know. It is a fact that space and time are limitless. It is a fact that in any right-angled triangle, the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares whose sides are the two legs. Only some of the facts and reliable beliefs are useful. The observation that a zebra has more combined area of black strips on its body that the combined area of white strips is useless to us. An office sales information is not applicable always and everywhere. Science is the set of facts and reliable beliefs, which are useful irrespective of time and place (Science Definition). We have to doubt some things. We should not accept and/or believe which does not have enough bases, or which can be disproved using facts or reliable beliefs. Reference: http://theknowledgeone.com/documents/Human_Psychology.htm