# Aman shah

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1. ## I was confused with Impulsive energy component of gravitational energy.Latter I realised my gravity engine Concept works on concept of Overommable re

The only thing which I have not disclosed is about the actual overcommable resistance used,but used water as example for overcommable resistance.I have Discussed the basic idea here with the equation and comparison to quite similar phenomeneon of creep. A commutator controls one cycle(supply and recovery) and the other process is the downward process of overcommable resistance.In the present example,the energy gained and consumed by such overcommable process is converted to electricity through a turbine.Actual engine would not be using turbine but the Concept still will work on the same principle/analogous principle. It is like removing some upward resistance and hence you do not find water in left semi bowl in the analogous example.(The resistance system is water in Rightside of semi bowl coupled to a energy converter water turbine.)Now a "commutator" is not a new thing,neither Motor Cum Generator setup.Using commutator is very Importent to control the whole process. The idea in my invention Analogy is to extend time spent by gravity to act on a heavy object by a few nanoseconds due to the slowing down of the heavy ball speed due to resistance offered.The more the time gravity acts at a particular height(H=H1),the more the gravity energy gained to overcome resistance (splashing the water resistance in analogous example given) as well to rotate the half cycle generator rotor. For example,If there is a 1 kg of solid powder to be lifted upwards,I need X amount of work done upwards.If I have to push 2 Kg of solid powder downwards,I need to consume X plus X (2X)amount of Gravitational energy. Net energy consumed = 2 X -X =X Which is then converted to Net electrical energy Output.This is what one of the way of satisfacting the Principle, Mostly,Gravity engines should work on the principle that the Gravity engine/Gravity wheel systems are innovatively designed to take in (consume) much more Gravitational energy than what energy needed to lift heavy ball upward. Now notice that this cannot be achieved when such a overcommable resistance gradient occurs only with respect to time vertically.In other words,you need your system to be in a cyclic circular path OR in other words the gradient should occur in a circular cyclic path. NOTE: 1)Notice that there are two generation outlets at downward process.One is though Water turbine example which converts energy needed to overcome resistance into electricity. 2)The other is downward energy supplied Recovery process through Half cycle generator located at the red Pivot.
2. ## I was confused with Impulsive energy component of gravitational energy.Latter I realised my gravity engine Concept works on concept of Overommable re

It is a system where in more resistance has to be overcomed in downward motion and less resistance has to be overcommed in upward process with respect to analogous sketch.That is done by Downward Overcommable resistance system.(water is just an example,actual system uses other resistance system)This is one process.Other simultaneous process is controlled through Commutator through motor cum generator(half initial cycle motor and rest half cycle generator).Also the resistance system I have used has to be OVERCOMABLE (that is it should not be fixed and rigid,I believe I discussed this in my first comment in this thread.).Two different Downward processes takes place simultaneously.May be you haven't read the long explanation in this thread completely.
3. ## I was confused with Impulsive energy component of gravitational energy.Latter I realised my gravity engine Concept works on concept of Overommable re

Yes,that is about frictional losses.Even in the actual engine which uses solid elastic type resistance(not to be disclosed until patent is published in official gazette),frictional losses would be there obviously.Whenever friction is there,heat losses are obvious.

5. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Wow!Fantastic,I liked this comment. I hereby request everyone to read my comment no. #98 as well as do read my whole blog, http://blogs.science...realfreeenergy/ and then ask questions only after reading each and everything patiently slowly, on my blog as well as #98. Thanks,John.I fully agree with you!!!
6. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

May be you really misunderstood something. I used the word Idiots for those people who tried to create non realistic Perpetual motion machines and those people who can't think out of box:conventional.I didnt told that scientists are idiots. I used the word idiots for Some class of people,not for scientists. A persion trying to make Perpectual machine is definately an idiot.See,my engine is not perpetual. I would have named my topic as Real Gravity Engines.The reason why I had to add the words"Non perpeual" is that people assume that gravity engine is perpetual and cannot run,without actually reading the description.I know this psychology of people. In fact when I started inventing my engine,I was not knowing meaning of perpetual 4 years back.You can call this engine as gravity resistance engine.The resistance is realised by centralised (point weight) point loaded shaft. For understanding the concept fully,ou can log on to, http://blogs.scienceforums.net/realfreeenergy/ Or same description is available is available just below the image upload on last post on Flickr, http://www.flickr.co...N07/6854088744/
7. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Well,yes, 1)Suppose you place any object on a table top,the object will transfer it's gravity potential energy to table top.the table top will be full of internal vibrations on atomic lattice scale. 2) Similarly,suppose you have an elastic net with hole at bottom,ithat object/ball will transfer its potential energy to the net.The elastic net will be strained (related to material science) and will elongate causing vibrations which can be tapped by piezoelectric effect.This will increase the time taken to ball to come down by miliseconds to let the elastic material strained but at the end what we have is usable output. 3)Well,if you hold a object in air,you are going against the gravity as equal and opposite reaction producing zero net gravity. So gravity energy can be a fuel,but it should not be wasted simply.What my engine does is something similar to Case 2).The problem is we have gravity as fuel,we simply waste it. In my actual engine,I am using heavy pistons,gears,central shaft force distribution technique,etc.Actual engine will not use balls and net,which was just a very good analogous example Well,someone asked me whether I am here to learn or not.My answer is Yes,I am here to learn.But not blindly,first I will validate the comments here and then learn surely if anything is told which I don't know. Well what I have learnt from few forums like this is amazing!Infact,2-3 experts on other forums like this agreed that my idea works surely with no doubt. But they made me realise one thing:My idea works because of strained gravitational energy in material over a period of time,not beacause of impulsive energy. Since my idea is derived straight away from nature,there is no doubt my idea works. One more thing:My machine is not perpetual.Perpetual machine don't exist. Cases 1),2) and 3) I discussed are common sense to anyone.If someone is disagreeing to existance of elastic material,stresses,resistance and these three cases,it might mean that her/his basis in physics are not clear. Iwill give two examples how nature inspires and converts it in to inventions: 1)See how a fruit falls over a leaf attached to a leaf and sets the leaf in vibration,because of elasticity and resistance to fall of fruit causing stress in leaf. 2) see how MIT scientists made Artificial leaf which involves artificial photosynthesis.(A competition to gravity engines)The Artificial leaf is an excellent invention.We could have vehicles carrying a water tank which supplies water to this device which then converts water into H2 and O2 which can power a compact fuel cell for vehicle power train.I think this device is one of the most promising device.It is even better than having an electric car with expensive batteries such as tesla model S having a range of 480 Kms per charge. http://web.mit.edu/n...-leaf-0930.html I think we should learn from nature and ,my engine is inspired from nature.
8. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Well,disagreeing this means disagreeing laws of nature.I thought ,The example I used would explain you 70 percent of the concept,but unfortunately has not explained to you.Have you considered the stress which I have talked about in the elastic net?The actual concept would not use any net but will use distribution of both energy needed to lift heavy piston (recovered) PLUS energy output on one shaft from the centre which is then transferred through a secret confidential technique for best efficiency.Sorry,I don't agree with you.Read the same last Flickr post once again.May be you understand.
9. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Let's take an another example to understand how my engine basically works.I have posted this example on Flickr. http://www.flickr.co...N07/6854088744/
10. ## PERPETUAL MOTION

Reference to thread removed. According to me,real Gravity engines are possible,but Perpectual engines are Impossible .You can't go against law of thermodynamics.You cannot make energy from nothing. The only ways to use gravity as fuel are1) using proper force distribution technique with Impulsive energy component of gravity2)weight shifting intelligently with proper force distribution.3) mix of both. Note that there are only few real gravity engine inventors,there are thousands of cheaters on Internet and idiots trying to make PMM. For more information,please visit my Facebook page,https://www.facebook.com/truegravitymagneticengines Thanks! Disclaimer:I am following forum rules strictly,so want to suggest that visiting my forum is only a suggestion,not advertisement.

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12. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

I think the modified description on first Flickr post may explain this.Or else I request Hypervalent iodine or any other physics experts to read and study post 66 fully along with first Flickr post and comment on this,if he/she points out something interesting.
13. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Agreed that Gravity acts in one direction but the effect of gravity can be extended to other direction.For example,a weight on left side of a rotary fan(vertical) will cause a movement of other fan blade on right side in opposite direction.The acted gravitational force can be diverged to any other path by designing the mechanical elements accordingly.I have an example of one part of my engine which explains your doubt about two components very well,but I cannot disclose that due to patent processing.
14. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

The fact in case 1),that you can convert more energy into usable energy at both the generators compared to only one generator as in case2) shows the evidence of additional gravity potential component in addition to the potential energy component achieved while lifting the heavy ball.If you have still not understood this,imagine how cricket ball is being pushed by a bat which not only displaces the ball with the bat,but also it gives additional momentum(impulse).The 1st case proves that this concept is also valid for gravity.It's better that you make the models as illustrated in case 1) and 2) with weight at the top of the rod and attach generators at each wheel and see how much electrical power each case makes.Compare the power conversion efficiency.No,this is not the exact mechanism used in my engine.This is an analogy. If these is not true then the rod in case 1) should have partially come towards downwards,not touching ground,because it shouldn't have been attracted by enough gravitational pulling energy to help it touch the ground because of the resistance of two wheels instead of one wheel.This do not happen at all and hence proves the existence of two components of gravity.
15. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

I am finding difficult to explain this to you,because I think you are confussed.Yes,I might make a better detailed vector diagram to show you soon.The vector diagram for the first Flickr post is complicated to draw!The last diagram I posted was only a simplified version.Till now,if you have not seen this few sentences on Flickr,then see this carefully once more. Now assume that you place one electrical generator at each wheel both in case 1 and case 2 ,then energy produced in case 1) is more than that in case 2),only due to weight force and implusive force distribution. So if you spend some energy to lift a ball up,you can recover it through one of the generators and take additional impulsive energy as output power though other generator. Now,when the rod falls over the floor,the vibration (bouncing) in case 2) is more than case 1) because impulsive energy turns into output more effectively in case 1)So the additional energy in case 2) is converted into inter material vibrations (Phonons)in the rod and more bounces compared to than in case1). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon That bounces will still be slightly converted to little useful energy but not as much as that in case 1). I use similar analogous concept in my engine Plus one more simple secret concept.
16. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Oh,I am not calling Science as "idiot"!The idiots are many of those who definately are idiots!How can science be idiot.Science is a subject ,not a living being. Wrong,I thing you have not understood what I have described in the first Flickr webpage post.I also told that I have also added some more description 2-3 lines on the first Flickr post(diagram is still the same)
17. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

This is your thought,not mine!Because you have believed in those idiots who told you that gravity engines are perpectual and cannot be made.I don't know how many have a workable gravity engine,perhaps very few including me.May be only me-one only. You have to combine/correlate this with the old Flickr post including both the descriptions on Flickr.Remember,gravity has two components and components are not exactly distributed in a particular channel!Both the vectors flowing away from each other ,away from the origin should be actually mixture of Impulsive potential and other component ,which I have showed a bit wrongly!
18. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Based on request, Velocity diagram for the weight and impulsive potential energy distribution can be found on, http://www.flickr.com/photos/59145126@N07/6985212845/in/photostream
19. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

You have misunderstood,I have added slightly more Description info on Flickr,just look once again.
20. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

I will suggest look at the Flickr website sketch I posted!There you will find the answer!It shows the proper Weight and impulsive force distribution over same shaft through the centre.It won't bounce much if you extract the impulsive energy through the special mechanism I have made.But if we don't extract that impulsive energy,it will bounce very much.Remember Gravitational energy has two components which I have discussed,not one.
21. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

That energy which you are talking of is the main energy output(impulsive energy)!The energy required to lift the heavy piston(here,ball) up is recovered in my engine when the ball is comming down ,not when the ball bounces.Well,how I use impulsive energy is partially kept secret of my engine BUT how I recover both impulsive potential energy and Impulsive energy is Partially explained with a example on, http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream I distribute both impulsive potential energy and energy required to lift weight on the same shaft.( Partially explained on flickr webpage means some secrets are discussed/leaked and some secrets are not discussed at all due to patent processing On Flickr webpage.)The secrets discussed even though analogy here on this webpage as well as on Flickr website should be enough to get a proper idea of the validity /principle of working of my concept.If someone can copy and paste the content on Flickr on this forum with the rough sketch I posted on Flickr,that will be useful!My iPad does not support that without IOS App developed for Science Forums.
22. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Why not do a small experiment to know what is impulsive potential energy?Release quiet a heavy ball on floor from a height and see how the ball bounces?Just analyse,you might get the doubt solved.

24. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

But we need to make easier and more convinient solutions,we cannot make dams everywhere.A suitable location is needed.You cannot make dams in some areas like Rajasthan,India,placed around deserts.And it's so risky to handle dams,can cause floods,also difficult to fight against cavitation of turbine blades.Making dams are so expensive.It has still not completely replaced coal derived power generation plants.
25. ## Real Non-Pepectual Gravity engines

Most people don't believe but there are some intelluctual people who can take interest in the analogous principle of my engine which I have discussed and learn from it how real gravity engines could be made.Well,I am trying to spread the reality to as many people as possible!It depends on people how they except the reality.It is not a dump man's task to make gravity engines.Its needs intelluctual people like me,newton,Galileo,etc.There are only few true gravity engine inventors!The others have failed because they have either tried to create PMM or have tried to cheat society.I don't know why those idiots tried to made PMM.You can't make PMM.My engine is not a PMM.The most funniest thing is this:Most people think Psychologically that a gravity engine is PMM and cannot run.Who told them this nonsense?
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