Farsight,
I like the way you go to lengths to explain things in a reasonable manner.
Having said that I have a severe problem with how I determine energy for my logic based solution and how you describe it here. Basically I am happy with you reflecting theory and the definitions used by those theories for energy along with mass and matter, for a logic based solution it is different and the definitions are different.
You seem to want as much clarity as possible while conforming to the theory but from a logic based beginning the definitions have to be absolute.
Because I do not have to conform to theory, due to the fact I start from scratch before big bang where there was no theory, then so too are my definitions from scratch so at least when I talk about such things as mass and matter and energy everyone is clear it is definitions provided for the solution alone.
As a matter of interest here are the definitions:
Anything that exists is mass
All mass contains matter
All matter is created from energy.
This again is not contradicting theoretical definitions but are provided as clarification for my solution alone.
I do not see how anyone could confuse my meanings as much as the problems caused by theoretical definitions but that is my personal view.
As you can see I have all matter created from energy, this is absolute for I see no other basic substance that could create anything at all.
It is all well and good considering certain properties of mass and matter as energy but that defers from the absolute question that dictates all matter is created from energy and nothing else.
It is fundamental, take away all the energy from the universe and nothing is left except empty space.
Composite particles at the atomic level are energy particles, take away the energy and there is no particle. To speculate that mass and matter are substance and energy is not requires all the energy be removed from mass and matter and a clear definition of the substance that is left is shown to be that mass or matter less the energy.
I would add at this time that I have the single fundamental particle that is the building block for the standard model particles as an energy particle.
So it is with some interest that I have read your posting here, I do not have a problem with how it is presented and accept it is mainstream theory that it follows.
My problem is that energy particles can only be created using energy and only a single energy particle can be fundamental as to be required by default.
The reason for that is without even a single fundamental energy particle nothing would exist as a multitude os standard model particles require a multitude of origins that defies explanation.
best wishes,
john
jck