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  1. I received an email message from the moderator about suspending my account, to which I relied. I ask him to pass on my message. Seems it was too much to ask, so I waited for my account to come unsuspended to pass on my own message. I had been keeping this to myself, but once it got out, I felt I might as well contact someone I could trust to go over it with me, so I could be sure I had done everything correctly. I just happen to have a childhood friend who is quite knowledgeable in the particular area I was working. He specialized in that. We had a discussion and he pointed ou
  2. I have appologized to the forum for making an assertion which I refuse to substantiate. I have conceded your point about forum rules. Yes you are right about that. But that's all you have, and it is not even related to the assertion itself. I am exercising great patience with you. It is good training. Thanks for that. I have needed to learn more patience. In the past I would have torn a strip off you so wide you would be feeling it for some time, using words like pompous, arrogant, and clueless. This is wonderful progress for me. A=B B=C so A=C was not part of the proof, it was just a
  3. The complexity of an explanation within the premise has at its root the number of distinct substances and the associated dynamic geometric description of their distribution and behavior. I don't understand what you are driving at. The relative complexity of geometric shapes and arrangements is fairly straight forward for the most part. However, as a caveat, we must consider that in a reductionist environment, more instances do not equal more complexity. The introduction of more instances is accepted it they are identical and they reduce the complexity of the root explanation. Thus the
  4. Say what?! I am sure if you think that over you will reconsider. If A=B and B=C, then A=C Certain facts (A=B and B=C) in association will show the obvious (A=C). If you do not consider these facts together (A=B and B=C), you do not see the obvious conclusion. It is how science works. It is how axioms work. It is the way of things. I have no idea what you are intending to say. Every axiom must be considered to be timeless, so that there was for each a very long time before they were discovered, because no one happened to consider the facts together in such a way that the conclusion
  5. I was going to edit my post when I saw your reply. When I said "without even knowing me", I meant to say, "without even knowing the reasoning or me". So, you have no basis for believing the assertion, and no basis for disbelieving it, except that it conflicts with your world view, and you are possibly suspicious due to some past experience. And that is of course your objection. That I am not supplying the reasoning. If you are upset/frustrated, it is understandable. You find no obvious connection between the premise and the conclusion. It is the way of things. I do not think
  6. You seem to think I set out intending to prove that God exists, or that I made some sort of logical copout. You imply prejudice that does not exist in the premise, or incompetence/ignorance in applying the reasoning. Your lack of belief in my assertion requires that you attribute these qualities to me without even knowing me. You are making negative assumptions about me and being quite condescending. This appears to be an emotional response based on my refusal to explain further, and the disruptive nature of the assertion within your world view. I am sorry if I have upset you.
  7. Perhaps you did not catch the discussion in the other thread. The reason that I wont discuss the proof is not because I will think you lost your way by not agreeing with me. It is because it would be an offense to God to prove his existence to everyone. When I say I can prove God's existence, you are left to your imagination. You may imagine some Bible quotes, or some fossil thrown out as proof of God's existence. You are not likely to expect that the proof would be based on the premise shown. At least you now have an idea the proof started on a reasonable footing, with good intentions.
  8. Sorry, if I have not been able to help you in any way. My intention was to allow challenge to the premise, not to explain the proof. I have said previously that I wont do that. I felt it only fair to allow challenge to the premise, on which the proof is based. Like I said the proof itself is axiomatic. There is no need. Since no challenge has been raised on the premise, I see no need to discuss it further. You are simply in a position of believing that proof of God's existence can be shown from the premise, or that I am making a false claim whether intentioned or not. Good
  9. The existence of anything seems paradoxical. Let us suppose that one thing exists. We ask ourselves how it came into being. This question appears to presuppose that nothing existed before the object since it is the only thing in existence, and without it nothing else exists. We suppose that the object was not made from something else that was destroyed to make it. From this apparent position we must imagine something appearing suddenly out of nothing. This seems paradoxical, improbable, and incomprehensible. There is a solution to this apparent paradox. We may argue that some
  10. We have two accepted practices in physics. One is the application of Occam's Razor, and the other is the reduction of physical events and systems into mathematical models. We may take these two behaviors in physics and form a generalized logical premise for a TOE. On sub-atomic and cosmic scales the simplest answer is the correct one, the simplest answer will be expressed purely in dynamic geometry, and the simplest answer must always consist of the simplest explanatory geometry, judged only by geometric complexity. From this premise it follows axiomatically that God exists. Of course
  11. People have propensities. It is the propensities of a person that show their true inner character or spirit if you will. These propensities are your honest compulsions, and not self control over your compulsions. These propensities change over time as people have new experiences. This can lead a sinner to repent and change his ways, having developed new and more righteous propensities. However, if the spirit does not change in its propensities, no indulgence or bribe, or whatever you wish to call it, is going to appease God. That's my take on it.
  12. A very human centric point of view. You will judge everything based on how well it serves you calling it good and evil. God whom you claim defines good and evil, is declared evil by you, because he acted in a way that may have been brutal to some people. You will judge God. It's all about people, and what's in it for them.
  13. I didn't bring it up. I was asked to prove that God exists. You would like it, and feel smug I suppose, if I would quietly fold and say that I can't do that. but I can, axiomatically from first principles. I am revealing nothing of the proof, only that there is one. It matters little. You will never believe me. I am not beating any drum or trying to convert anyone. I am not trying to make a name for myself. You don`t even have any idea who I am. I am very comfortable. God has blessed me. It is a satisfying personal milestone, little more.
  14. No. Proving God's existance to you would be an offense to God. I said that. You do not consider God in your proceedings. I do. I can prove to you he exists, but it would offend him to do so. Get it? Who here would stand against God, knowing him? Would you stand against God? How then could you ask me to do so? I would rather serve God, than stand against him. It's fundamental. God could reveal himself most convincingly to any and all at any time. Clearly he has chosen not to do so. Is it surprising then, that he would not want to be outed by some upstart? As for
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