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  1. This thread is located at:

    http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4096&goto=newpost

     

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    oh my god... navajoeverclear, that is so funnnnyyyyyyy. :) uve got a wicked

    sense of humour there

     

    ------------- that post does not exist anylonger, nor the one of mine to which he was replying. WHO IS CRUSHING THE HUMOR?! Not to say my humor is superior to anyone elses--- that probably means that other people are being censored also. I know my post was off of science but i've had a million others that were a million times more stupid (not to mention other people's lame posts that are aloud to survive), so its ridiculous that this should be the one to be deleted.

  2. How did these scientists say it was unlikely? The universe is so freakin big its inevitable. Eww, i feel like Agent Smith saying that, but i don't agree with most things that came out of his mouth. He was very stupid and limited in capacity to see beyond himself. Anyway, to me evolution and everything is really very miraculous and amazing. We'll never understand it all. We can never predict what the next inevitable thing will be because we know so little. Might be fun to guess though. . . . . . . . oh also about that dissipation thing, no one wants to believe that, so what kind of evidence is there that tells it will eventually rejoin? I wanna know, will it or wont it? Doesn't matter how long it takes, time is nothing when nobody is alive to experience it.-------- i think rejoining makes the most sense, that would mean it could implode then bang over and over though eternity, otherwise you have an illogical idea that it just began and ended and never really mattered.

  3. --- in North America anyway. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4638582/ --- check out that site. Anyway it says they come every 17 years, but i am 17 and i have seen two waves of cicada in my lifetime. One when i was young, was very bad. All over. Nasty nasty nasty. But we enjoyed crushing them. Again was two or three years ago, me and my friends organized a battle unit (system consisting of whacking a tree, running, swatting as many as possible of the bugs that fly off (with tennis rackets), checking each other for bugs while they resettle, then repeating) , since there were so many it was more fore summer amusement than a serious undertaking. We are looking forward to this years war. ----- anyway, why did they come twice? Obviously it could be a seperate generation of eggs that were maybe somehow deposited off schedule, nevertheless waiting the seventeen years. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!(insert invader zim voice here)

  4. I guess that's fair Greg, but you make it sound like i was trying to make everyone believe it, its just something that popped into my head. You are right though, as far as i know there's no way to observe such a thing---- anyone got any ideas anyway?-- come on it is an interesting idea, ignore the fact i am an idiot. My foolishness does not equate to your inability to learn from me.

     

    Sorry for saying Discuss, i hate standardized testing, but i could have said nothing and wouldn't you have discussed anyway? You can reply any way you want and you wont be pointlessly graded.

  5. Matter has an order of structure and substructure eh? What if there was an atom that went by a different order of structure? Say the electrons, protons and nuetrons of this atom are all one hundred times smaller than all known elements, actually it would be more than a different elements, cause all the elements are made of particles of the same size, just in different numbers, correct? Mayhaps the substructures of this alternate matter particle are also different (not quarks, or quarks that work differently or somethin). What'd be the properties of a clump of this type of matter? Maybe it could spill through traditional matter, appear flow through it as if it is nothing . . . THUS THE MECHANISM OF THE EXISTENCE OF GHOSTS IS REVEALED!!! just kidding, i mean theres a million things that this alternate matter might do, maybe we'd never notice most of it. Would there be anyway to detect alternate matter? Watcha think? Discuss.

  6. I have this really cool big stick. It is spirally and staff like and neat. Me and my stick and my friends have been on many adventures, but the stick is growing old and gray, i fear it is weakening-- how can i strengthen it to preserve it? Do you know of any methods of artificial petrification? I also would like to replicate it and make others in it's likeness (of coarse not as sacred as the original, but respectful nonetheless in emulation), so how should i mold it? Thank you for all the help you will give me--- or you shall be smitten by the wrath of the staff.

  7. Amen. Choose what you believe, but get over trying to proove it. Do you believe in faith? If you do you will stop trying, or caring to proove anything. Proove to me you aren't dreaming, proove to me you aren't a computer program. You can choose to believe that you are or are not, but there is no way to logically proove it. Some people think that proof comes in the probability or improbibility, but you really cant proove that either. Of coarse you should have reasons for what you choose to believe, but if you feel you have to MAKE others see it as you do, your reasons are probably not genuine.

     

    back on the subject---- the universe is so huge that probabilites become inevitable. Consider this one : how many of instances of life exist in the enourmous universe? There are certainly many many just by possibility and probability---- you'd have to have either a lot of faith or a lot of stupidity to say there isn't lots of life besides us. . . . . as we progress, evolve, advance, we gain more power. The technology of today would be considered magic just a century ago. Of coarse there are also many problems stemming from this power--- which may result in us blowing ourselves up---- but there are those other possiblitities. It is inevitable that one organism may gain enough power to be called God. Since this would be many levels beyond us we cannot understand what that would entail. I actually don't choose to believe in that exact possibility, just trying to make a point, or something, as if it matters.

     

    Please stop preaching, it isn't working.

  8. just about your beginning thing--- what began the beginning? There is a beginning to every beginning, so there is no ultimate beginning.

     

    your perception on god seems openminded, but at the same time seems as though it is bound to some programmed obligation. ---however-- if you even understand me, you might want not listen. I often disagree with myself from momement to moment.

  9. Amen, thats what i've been tryin to say (i realize its probably hard to see what i'm trying to say through all my rambling) -- one of the definitions of life is that it is not what you think it is. Evolution, if you believe in it, is the concept that what ever works best survives, doesn't matter how unlikely, over time it is inevitable if it is possible-- not to say what is inevitable WILL ever happen, just that saying it is highly improbable, means nothing, evolution is all about high improbabilities thriving.

  10. Hold on dudes--- IQ tests were not handed down to us by God, they were made by imperfect people-- and therefore ARE imperfect-- how much so precisely isn't really proovable. I have never taken a professional IQ test, but it sounds to me as they are quite pointless. I am sure that many, if not most people could be taught the gain a higher score, and the test itself does nothing to aid this learning, it does not promote progress, so i think it is quite stupid. Also there are a million different types of intelligence, our mind is not limited to the parameters society has identified and christened as determinitive of 'intelligence'. What kind of intelligence is important to you is what you should decide. The most important thing in my life will be marraige and family (i'm only 17 so thats why i say WILL). I will most definately marry a smart women, but intelligence comes in different forms, and there are many things more important that them living up to the worlds imposed standards. One woman may score incredibly high on an IQ test wilst having very little knowledge about love and mothering, while one with a significantly lower score may be an excellent wife and mother--- i would choose the latter.---- But i would by no means go and be an idiot and set some sort of crucible that every woman should live up, because anyone could learn to become better in that area, but there are also many different personalities therefore different ways to be an excellent wife and mother.---- that is what is important to me, and like anything else there is no way summarize diversity of each human mind to say which exact componets must be mastered.

     

    I don't know what else to say but to think for yourself, make your own choices, and dont let an IQ test, or any test by anyone else limit what you can be.

  11. Sorry for getting defensive admiral Ju . . . I still probably wouldn't like the books, there are several popular phenomenons that i stubbornly refuse to embrace- such as anime, video games, technology . . . . and the list grows everyday. I'll learn to have a less negative view on it, still opposing-- but not so negative. My beliefs are still evolving.

     

    . . . . suppose someday i'll have to overcome these prejudices and choose how to deal with those influences. Cause soon they'll have AI people and i'll be called a racsist not to accept them. . . . . oh boy i'm going to have my say for the future. My say may be drowned, but i'll go down fighting . . . . maybe--- depends on what the purpose of fight would be--- if i thought i could shatter the mentalities that are leading us closer to the Matrix, i would try. Or if i could at least make a few chips in the window of modern blindness.

     

    Technology isn't nessicarily our enemy, except that all its components are manufactured by the corporate world, which cares much more about making money than the consequences of the slavery they persuade people to choose, to secure their incomes. Its really the psychology of society that is the problem them . . . . and i just realized i'm wasting my time on a soapbox not actually doing anything to help that problem so i'm going to shut up.

     

    . . . . but just one more thought about the rising of our slavery to our money fuelled addictions ----- i don't think it can last much longer, something will go wrong, and due to lack of mental diversity, brainwashers and brainwashees will go extinct. This is my hope, and belief that all this idiocy is causing strain that will deplete resources, and eventually put us back in our humble place. ---- hopefully we will find a way to choose that safe place instead of being compelled to it

  12. I have not and have no desire to read such books, so i don't know what you mean. Come to think of it the only movement mechanism would have to be propulsion, and it would always need enough to return to earth to refuel. But i talked about that--- one generation could deposit atmosphere in colonies so it doesn't have to return to earth, then other generations would evolve from that that could go even farther. Of coarse this would have to be a massive quantity, and on terms of nature would take millions of years to evolve--- as all evolution.

     

    I think it could evolve to be resistent to extreme temp and radiation, and probably would use the radiation maybe to develop a different type of photosynthesis. ---- I think i mentioned the topic of food--- as it built colonies there would be deposits of food, it would have to return to earth to get more for the deposits, but the new enviroment accumulates, other species could evolve that go farther than the colony and only have to return to the colony (instead of earth).

     

    Along that plant idea, an organism be out aways and have roots reaching back to earth.

     

    It does sound funny, but depending on how you explain various stages of evolution on earth, it sounds pretty unlikely too. Space evolution may possibly be inevitable. With genetic engineering, we could probably speed up the process.

  13. I think you could evolve an engine powered by photo synthesis, to travel farther beyond the earth. This organism could return for to earth for food then build colonies farther out, allowing something to go farther that evolves from it.

     

    ----- and i just thought - - - - these organisms would be at more risk of melting or something than of freezing. Cause places without atmosphere are hot temperatures in sun, and freezing in dark, so the same should apply to the organisms. But since they are much smaller than planets and moons, would they experience less dramatic temperatures (thus making it easier for them to survive).

     

    Also maybe it would be possible for them to go dormant in absense of light and heat, then reanimate when exposed to light and heat again? Would this be possible dealing with such dramatic temperature differences?

  14. i cant remember how and why i started think about this, but could and would life ever evolve to temporarily go beyond the atmosphere? First there'd have to be some reason why being able to do so would be advantageous, like some food source that none else could reach. But that'd probably be something small, and what energy source would that feed off of to keep from freezing? Could it have an outside shell, then a way of keeping warm inside? How would this form on a microscopic organism level? I guess i'm as well to answer my own questions on this kind of subject, since it doesn't exist.

     

    I think it could be possible, so if possible, no matter how improbable, is it not inevitable? Thats a base theme in the birth and evolution of life. Revolutionary evolution of life is improbable, but inevitable given right the conditions.

  15. could you explain that reference frame change thing, maybe in different words? It sounded cool, but i dont understand what it means. But it didn't confuse--- because i simply didn't get it (like looking at a math problem that uses functions i haven't learned anything about). Maybe i'm just being stupid, but could you try saying it in another way. Just to be safe (so i don't have to ask again) pretend i'm a grammre school student.

  16. Dude i read in my AP Bio Cliff Notes that Diatoms shells are made of some silicon compound, justa sec let me go look it up . . . . Si02- that'd be Silicon Dioxide right? Maybe the cells of your aliens evolved from something like diatoms. The problem would be i think that would be tougher than plant cell walls, and the reason animals are mobile is cause they don't have any cell wall. But then again theres the venus flytrap and a few responsive plants like that, so maybe the real reason plants don't move is just cause photosynthesis couldn't create enough energy for mobility.

  17. makes me reconsider what i believe, i mean if its possible, you'd have to accept it as life and decide how to respect it. I think it would be something similar to being considered a handicap person mentally. Any ideas on what it would behave life? a genius monkey, or a psycho human. Aren't chimps naturally more violent and such than humans? wait no that was a very stupid question. . . . . it comes back to why would we do it?

  18. Yes i had many ridiculously complicated questions, and i want comprehensive answers to satisfy every particle of my interest. Get to work! I realize that some of my sentences barely made sense. That is your duty to figure out, it is your only purpose in life. Trust me.

  19. This hardly qualifies as science, and perhaps very immature/trivial sense of fun, but whatever.

     

    Just for fun, can anyone with a somewhat extensive knowledge in human migration, give me an estimation range of how what my relation would be to a certain individual of another nationality (say billionth cousin or uncle, or somethin like that). There'd be a million things to take into account such as life span and reproductive frequency of the general population at the time of migration, who knows what other crap.

     

    K so i am mostly english, some german, and like a 32nd Cherokee. How closely am i related to my friend who is chineese? More closely than my 100% European descended friends, cause the Native Americans came from Asia across the Bering Straight. I'd be how much more closely am i related to my lovely female friend who is half hispanic? I don't know what nationality her father it, her mother is hispanic. Hispanic comes from Native Central Americans breeding with Spanish, and after that since hispanics bred more with hispanics, on average hispanics are what percent more Native American than European? Also her hair is very beautifully curly (not as much so as africans) so precisely where did that gene come from? Her mother, but where did she get it from? Most hispanics have fairly straight hair.

     

    This could be a really complex undertaking. I'm sure someone could give me aproximate answers. I think i'll make it a lifelong goal to find a more exact calculation. Is there such occupation as someone who has extensive knowledge of nationalities and subnationalities? I think it would be awesome if possible to be able to look at someone and tell them what ancestors they are probably a result of.

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