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The truth doesn't need to be proven, because it is the truth.

It was not proven, it was observed, or recognized. Sorry, my mistake. Pi is the ratio of the circumference of any circle to the diameter of that circle. It is 3.14 The importance of pi has been recognized for at least 4,000 years. A History of Pi notes that by 2000 B.C., "the Babylonians and the Egyptians (at least) were aware of the existence and significance of the constant π," recognizing that every circle has the same ratio of circumference to diameter. Both the Babylonians and Egyptians had rough numerical approximations to the value of pi, and later mathematicians in ancient Greece, particularly Archimedes, improved on those approximations. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-pi-and-how-did-it-originate/ And we have the Golden Ratio, phi, 1.618, which is recognized everywhere! Even in our bodies. "Johannes Kepler wrote that "the image of man and woman stems from the divine proportion. In my opinion, the propagation of plants and the progenitive acts of animals are in the same ratio". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio So, we consist of these patterns.

Proven because of it's original meaning. People studied the world, which God created for us. As Trurl said.

This is exactly what I am talking about. You crossed out this sense. Your truth has changed.

Nonetheless, Divina proportione (15th century Italian for Divine proportion), later also called De divina proportione (converting the Italian title into a Latin one) is a book on mathematics written by Luca Pacioli and illustrated by Leonardo da Vinci, completed by February 9th, 1498[1] in Milan and first printed in 1509 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divina_proportione The number is the same, but mathematics are different.

True statement is not the truth. And I am talking about the truth not only for math, but for everything. The ultimate and absolute Truth. Because you don't even know what a number is. Not how to use it, but what it is.

Not false, but they change. For example "The metamathematics of Zermelo–Fraenkel set theory has been extensively studied. Landmark results in this area established the logical independence of the axiom of choice from the remaining Zermelo-Fraenkel axioms and of the continuum hypothesis from ZFC. The consistency of a theory such as ZFC cannot be proved within the theory itself, as shown by Gödel's second incompleteness theorem. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zermelo–Fraenkel_set_theory And senses change over time. I believe you call 3.14 pi, or maybe the Golden Ratio. I am sure you know it is also called divine proportion and God's Ratio.

Everything changes; words, languages, art, science has also experienced cardinal changes.

This statement is actual, or true, because people agree on this. People created numbers, math, etc. It is the people's truth. If somebody decides to change it, it will be changed and crossed out. And it is even not the truth, it is a true statement for current mathematics!

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7

Ok I just asked you about the number, and now I play with words. You said that number was out of questions.

Why do you need to change my words? My question is different. But you have changed your first statement. Why?

Number is a symbol. number word/symbol [countable] a word or symbol that represents an amount or a quantity https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/number_1

Number is a symbol, isn't it? That's why "the number of prime numbers is not finite" sounds strange to me, because "the number" supposes some symbol, some scope or limit under it.

I think it is accommodation until rules of mathematics, concepts "Infinity" and "number" are questioned.

You are saying about the religious groups, and my very first respond was about Christian nationalism. Slavery and nationalism contradict to Christian values. I mean, not everyone who consider themselves Christians adhere to Christianity. And it was (or is) a common practice all over the world to build manufactories near prisons. It's not about religious groups. The rest is about this inner genuine conviction. How do you know, for example, that slavery is not good? How do you know that some conviction is genuine and true? And it's not your belief? What are your ideals? My answer is, when you have some conviction and it corresponds with true values, it is a genuine glimpse. For me the true values are Christian values. Because there's no truth without God.

I don't know how or why questions about slavery occurred in this topic. I am not a theologist, and I have found this explanation. "Another important point is that the purpose of the Bible is to show the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing his thoughts and actions. A person who has received God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin will understand that it is wrong to enslave another person. A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will, in turn, be merciful to others. This is the biblical method for ending slavery." I think it is so important doing something because you decided this, and not because you were told to, or it is written somewhere. When you have a glimpse in your mind - this is a gift.

Until this thread is closed, Luck Turpin, I'll give you a hint how to define one's belief system: it is origin...not life, but MAN. And the question is: what does it mean to be man? Not human, not human being, not species, but man. And Man? That's why there are only two kinds of worldview: scientific or religious. Or you think that people originated from aliens? Another hint: the difference between existence and living.

I am not a troll. My question is about attitude towards ONE ANOTHER. This question concerns politics also. I just wanted to mention. Let's look at France. It's a good country, they help others a lot. But let's remember Olympics' opening. It was quite rude towards Christians and values at all.

What is information? Is there any definition? It is just a word, "information", mans concept.

Why religion? In no way similar to the racial slavery. And I would like to repeat these lines This is the real slavery. 12Didn’t we say to you in Egypt, ‘Leave us alone; let us serve the Egyptians’? It would have been better for us to serve the Egyptians than to die in the desert!” Exodus 14 Who said this? I think I'll stay on my point of view. aren't they?

I don't agree. The tools of studying depend on the attitude towards the universe. And you remove theological and religious meaning of love.

Atheists are also useful and helpful to one another. And it sounds like imposition of the meaning of love. Archeology Society is not Theological Society. They use social sense, not religious.

Yes, you are right. I had to write, "In my opinion,...". But I hear these words "Love your neighbor" from different people, atheists also. And in daily life, in ordinary talk, if one mentions Christianity, these words occur in the mind. Because it is actually a hard task - to love one's neighbor. You see, not to respect, not "to be friends", but TO LOVE. When you love, you need to diminish your ego, but these words continue "as you love yourself". And another question occurs: What does it mean to love yourself? These words concern our urgent task in life - interaction with OTHERS. Because we live not in a desert, but among others. But you are right, I am not a theologist, these are only my thoughts. I repeat myself, because I chose words carefully. It is a scientific forum, and I am not sure that I understand the Bible. I am not sure that I understand anything. But when you mention slavery you put the modern meaning in that word. I think it's important to be in a frame of mind of the biblical times. Words change their sense over time.

"Be under obligation to no one — the only obligation you have is to love one another.Whoever does this has obeyed the Law." Romans 13 This is the question. Slavery in the Bible is not similar to the slavery on a race or skin colour.