DirtyChai

Right, and the fact that He said that things will just keep getting worse, and that this world will ultimately be destroyed by fire is pretty consistent with science, isn't it?

51 minutes ago, coffeesippin said:

I appear to be on the way out the door .....

It's OK brother, trust me, I know how you feel.  Just relax and play by the rules because I really don't want to see you go.   If the mods wanted you out you'd be gone, but they're fairly reasonable people that need to run a tight ship.  The fact that you're still here proves that and shows that they at least see some value in your posts.

3 hours ago, DrP said:

3 hours ago, DirtyChai said:

In addition to CharonY's question, I'd also like to know what that has to do with "religious groups opinions?"

 

I guess that 'religious groups' could jump on the band wagon and say that because he is an evil atheist without god in his life he was easily lead into sins such as rape... This is proof in some of their minds he can't be trusted and his arguments about evolution and the BB should be ignored in favour of creationism?   I guess creationists feel he is the enemy driven by satin because he propagates his views on the BB and the cosmos and thinks 'creation' is a myth in a story book.   Of course this would be ridiculous as there are many within the churches systems themselves that are guilty of far worse he is accused of without trial.

And tho that's not out of the realm of possibility, the only one I've seen making such comments so far is you.

I agree that our divisive social/political environment can be a bit frustrating.  Anytime some prominent figure is accused, the first thing some people want to do is attack their political/scientific/religious views.

If the accused is a democrat, they say "see, I told you those democrats are a bunch of no good SOB's!"  Likewise with a republican.

If the accused is a christian, they say "see, I told you those christians were nothing but a bunch of amoral SOB's!"

And even if some fringe website or lone keyboard warrior is making similar comments about Tyson/science, who really should care?  As if anyone with half a brain honestly believes that the credibility of science rests on Tyson's shoulders alone, and that his behavior somehow nullifies scientific concepts?

2 hours ago, Silvestru said:

3 hours ago, DirtyChai said:

In addition to CharonY's question, I'd also like to know what that has to do with "religious groups opinions?"

Religious website Patheos reported allegations of sexual harassment made against mr. Tyson to a bunch of newspapers. Thats why I mentioned religious groups.

So what?  What's wrong with that?   David G. McAfee from Patheos was the one that interviewed the women and reported their stories.  What does that have to do with "religious groups opinions?" 

2 hours ago, Silvestru said:

 the one I mentioned just tries to add satire and humor to a very serious rape accusation which disrespects both parties.

The quote you posted about him "just looking for Pluto. Everyone knows how he feels about Pluto! He simply cannot resist the pull of cosmic artistry in general" was from some liberal magazine that I never heard of before called The Slate, and from what I can tell was only posted by 3 other "no name" websites.  I can't seem to find that quote coming from any reputable source. 

Edit: Also, that quote had nothing to do with the rape allegation.

2 hours ago, Silvestru said:

Can we please focus on the misconduct part? I really enjoy reading your point of view on this subject and less about politics. This whole page has nothing to do with the topic.

For example I would like to discuss the crazy amount of "fake news" or baseless assumptions that I come across in the media related to this subject. Media is quoting religious groups opinions on the matter like it's evidence. I can't say what really happened but when media puts up baseless speculations as evidence just to sell papers...it makes me sad

In addition to CharonY's question, I'd also like to know what that has to do with "religious groups opinions?"

7 minutes ago, Eise said:

Tell us what you found: how do you prepare for the youngest day? The way that Jesus said, or the way Paul said? Who of the two is right, and why? Or don't you prepare at all, even that Jesus and Paul both mention the youngest day several times? 

Hey Eise, I've never heard of that expression before, "the youngest day."  Can you please elaborate?

Also, what specific verses are you talking about wrt what Jesus said vs what Paul said?

Thanks in advance!

24 minutes ago, iNow said:

9 hours ago, Ten oz said:

I think this conversation should more clearly lay bare how people really feel about these issues. 

“He pushed me from behind into a bedroom with his friend where he locked the door and blared the radio to muffle my screams then fought hardily against an investigation” is hardly equivalent to ‘he removed his dress shirt and cooked me a salad in a T-shirt and touched the tattoo I was showing him and he welcomed an investigation.”

You're kind of making his point given that you completely ignored the allegations of drugging and raping the other woman, but that may have less to do with how you "really feel about the issue" and more to do with how you feel about the accused.

39 minutes ago, MigL said:

Maybe the American and Canadian governments should have given money to Tesla instead of bailing out those idiots at GM.
Teslas would have been cheaper and a whole lot of people wouldn't be losing their jobs.

We're probably getting  a bit off topic here, and I really don't want to go back to hell and debate the bailouts all over again.

There's still a lot that can be said for both sides of the issue, but in the end, the bailouts saved 1-2 million+ jobs and 100+ billion dollars in unemployment benefits, plus any other government assistance (food/medical/housing) to help deal with the fallout. . .

On 9/6/2018 at 7:44 AM, Strange said:

What are you looking for:

• Criticisms of your science-fiction artwork?
• Or the top 10 reasons why this idea won't work?

Let's go with the top 10 option.

I'll start:

#1: Thus says the LORD: “If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth below can be explored, then I will cast off all the offspring of Israel for all that they have done, declares the LORD.”

1 hour ago, beecee said:

Thing is what was seen as harmless years ago, is viewed by many now as harrassment. Let me relate two incidents.....Many years ago, I had a sheila give me a slap on the bum and mumble nice arse ....many many years ago! I was as happy as any bloke could be and took it as a compliment.....incident 2: While walking 20ft or so behind a buxom blonde with low cut blouse and short shorts, and passing a building site, the workmen on said side let out with a series of wolf whistles and calls. It wasn't directed at me. The blonde simply turned around, open up her blouse to bare a large pair of breasts and flashed them to the wolf whistlers. I of course just happened to get an eye full which didn't concern her one bit.

standards change.

Right, nowadays the men could be removed from the construction site and the woman could be charged with indecent exposure and labeled a sex offender.

I suppose one good thing about a society where even flirting is viewed as borderline harassment is that it might help curb the overpopulation problem.

I'd imagine it's harder now for most men to approach women than ever before.  Perhaps it's best if we all start color coding our availability. 

Green stickers - game on. 

Yellow Stickers - approach with caution.

Red stickers - off limits.

Rainbow stickers - anything goes.

On 11/20/2018 at 1:55 AM, coffeesippin said:

On 10/21/2018 at 6:38 AM, DirtyChai said:

The Tanakh.  Or what I like to call, The Tonic. . .

 

Now I know what my cousin meant when he said, "it's ok to have faith, just don't let it drive you mad. . ."

Paul was a Jewish Pharisee .. he probably would have carried the Torah and rest of the Old Testament with him if he could. . .

I agree, but not sure why you selectively quoted that second sentence out of context. . .

Perhaps it may have resonated with you a bit, (and that's fine) but it was mostly in response to third@rsehole's comment about the need to kill insignificant people with nuclear weapons. . .

On 11/24/2018 at 7:22 AM, dimreepr said:

On 11/20/2018 at 10:12 AM, coffeesippin said:

When he was converted he did not discard the Torah and the Prophets, but used them in preaching Christ.  And of course he and others were also writing letters and gospels which became the New Testament.

So yes he was a Christian, he, therefore, was preaching the NT, so why not discard the Torah (if he had one)?

There are probably 250-300+ references to the OT in the NT.  Many of Paul's references were used to explain the relativity between OT Law vs. NT Grace.

29 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

49 minutes ago, DirtyChai said:

Especially during the summer.   You wouldn't normally think that the Great Lakes would be the place to be when it comes to whale watching. . .

Seriously tho, it's repulsive. . .

When most people are overweight, it becomes the 'new normal', so nobody feels they have to do anything. I'll be sure not to put on my spandex onesie when you're around.

Likewise, I'm nothing special to look at either anymore, but at least we have consideration for others. . .

10 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

2 hours ago, DirtyChai said:

I was hoping to get to the point where we could just be comfortable, but it seems the youngsters favor the tight clothing.  I suppose that indirectly addresses the problem of obesity here in the states. . .

It highlights the problem.

Especially during the summer.   You wouldn't normally think that the Great Lakes would be the place to be when it comes to whale watching. . .

Seriously tho, it's repulsive. . .

17 minutes ago, Strange said:

faded heavy-metal T-shirts.

I feel honored.  I started that back in the 90s when life in the US was the best it ever was. . .

I was hoping to get to the point where we could just be comfortable, but it seems the youngsters favor the tight clothing.  I suppose that indirectly addresses the problem of obesity here in the states. . .

28 minutes ago, Moontanman said:

They just keep getting better! Original Music from Motion Device!

Ya, not bad.  Good lookin' on their audio engineer/producer.  I like the pigeon shot or whatever the fuck bird that was -  but regardless, they really need some help on the cinematography side of it all.. . .

And tho it sounds really clean, maybe even too clean,  they're gonna have to "dumb it down" a notch  to match the video.   This isn't the 90s anymore with Bob Rock style perfection.  We need to see some grit, you know what I mean?

Love the late 80s industrial, sesame street city style funk.  My man takes us back . . .

This video reminds me  of when we'd head back home to Detroit to grind the poker tables when it was finally legalized. . .

Here's  a couple jams In honor of marijuana being legalized for recreational use in Michigan.

I must admit, I'm tempted. . .

1 hour ago, Strange said:

It is not a "wild crazy guess". (That is the sort of crazy wild comment that makes people describe "sceptics" as "deniers")

It is, as the annotation shows, an extreme estimate. I would assume that this means it is reasonably unrealistic. I don't know what it is based on, but I would expect an "extreme" estimate to be based on continuing growth as in the past, with no attempts to mitigate and considering all other worst-possible inputs.

You could argue (and I wouldn't disagree) that it is irresponsible to use extreme figures without also showing the full range of estimates. If for no other reason than it winds up people like you!  

And it's that continued irresponsible exaggeration of extreme and unrealistic figures that makes people describe "reasonable climate change proponents" as alarmists!

This video inspired me to learn about the use of various mathematical expressions in video and algorithmic animation about 10 years ago.  It surprises me that even today,  people still say that you won't  really need to use advanced math in your life.  There was a recent national commercial for an app.   The video animations in the commercial along with the app itself involved complex mathematics and coding, yet the commercial had a segment showing a mathematics teacher running out on her class saying, "you won't use this anyway."

Anyway, I think this video provides a decent social commentary on materialism as well. . .

Humans are weird.

I hear this song in my head every time I enter this forum, or play heads up poker. . .

Love the change up at 2:36.

As I mentioned before, I love the interbreeding of genres.  Here's one of my favorites - Symphony and Metal:

This had a major influence on me as a child.  My small world suddenly became infinite. . .

10 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

I think, as you get older, you have other interests and when you need a fix of music, you stick with the familiar because you know it will give you what you want.

If it wasn't for youtube, I wouldn't even know I had other interests.  I really like the crossbreeding of genres like electro-swing.

I was also forced into indie music because it fits so well with some of the ads I create.

On 10/21/2018 at 7:00 AM, StringJunky said:

It's interesting how our tastes fossilize. Although I like a lot of genres, I'm into guitar stuff of the 70's most deeply.

Ya, I wonder about that as well from time to time.   As a child in the 80s I was mostly subject to 70s classic rock by my parents, so that's pretty much my default genre.  If I had a choice of listening to only one band, I'd have to go with Zeppelin - not necessarily because they're my favorite, but because they've produced such a broad range of music that can satisfy practically any emotional situation.

By my mid 20s, I felt that my music collection had pretty much everything  I needed to carry me through the rest of life.  I don't even pay much attention to the new stuff coming out from my favorite bands of the 70s, 80s an 90s.

On 10/5/2018 at 4:57 AM, jajrussel said:

What scriptures would Paul have been carrying around?

The Tanakh.  Or what I like to call, The Tonic. . .

2 hours ago, Third@rk said:

Jerusalem, its people and land must be killed by nuclear weapons if possible, as quickly as possible, they are not important or significant.

Now I know what my cousin meant when he said, "it's ok to have faith, just don't let it drive you mad. . ."

36 minutes ago, beecee said:

Love the incredible photography particularly at  near the beginning

Ya, however, being an editor/animator I'd like to create a video as a side project with better continuity using more realistic imagery/effects.

36 minutes ago, beecee said:

the music I refuse to comment on, 

Ya, us Metallica fans get that a lot. . .

But don't despair,  given my love for all music, I'm bound to eventually post something more palatable to your aging taste buds.