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  1. Dr Krettin, I don't think the Greeks knew, and I implied they didn't, because if they had, I think it would somehow have made it down through the ages to us today. But I used the word “apparently”, hoping that it would qualify my overall statement. Because as you point out, maybe they did. I won't deny that I have the capacity to be arrogant and narrow-minded, but I've always had that capacity, even before I became a Christian. I was born with that capacity and so were you. It's called pride, the desire to command respect. But maybe I have more of it than you or anyone else on Earth.
  2. It just occurred to me that regardless of ones view of pride, good or bad, "the desire to command respect" is still a large part of our world, and that desire doesn't necessarily have to be referred to as pride. It still exists whether it has a name or not, and it seems to be the basis for arguments, road rage, power struggles, and a host of other things whenever someone feels disrespected. It's evident throughout the news every day. So would you agree that the desire to give respect is the beginning of love, since it seems impossible to express any form of love without that desire, and that t
  3. TAR, What aspect of pride would cause you to think that you were filled with pride? Because you had a deep and profound emotional respect and admiration for your daughter? From my view, that would be love, rather than pride. Historically pride was always evil and from what I understand, it still is. But I have not always thought that way. Like you, there were times when I thought I was filled with pride. My view has changed, as I've come to realize that pride was not what I was filled with, unless I happened to be filled with the desire to command respect, which has been the case more oft
  4. TAR, Let me first address the aspect of God. I understand that you and probably every person here doesn't believe that God speaks and most, probably don't think he exists. The reason I mention him, is because when I give a quote, I always try to credit the author, and in this case it just happens to be God. So if I mention him, it's for that purpose, because I wouldn't feel right not crediting him with whatever he has said or revealed to me, even though you think it's simply my own thoughts on the subject and may not think that there's even anything worth crediting. Moving on to the
  5. Alright you got me. I guess not everybody knew it.
  6. So what is consistently present across all definitions? The answer to that question is the key to love. The Greeks apparently didn't know, or I suspect they would have stated it. They defined different kinds, or forms of love but they didn't define love. There are different kinds of pride but only God knew the exact definition, (pride is the desire to command respect), the thing that is present across all the different kinds. Because he was the one who created the word. The same is true with love. The Hebrews seem to have come a bit closer. The Hebrew word for love is “ahava” and the
  7. I suspect that the opposite of humility is arrogance, because they are both attitudes, and thus you have one attitude as the opposite of another attitude, rather than an attitude (humility) as the opposite of a desire (pride). For God's definition of pride (pride is the desire to command respect) states that pride is a desire, not an attitude. And that desire is the thing from which all negative attitudes develop, including hate. You can have pride without hate but you generally cannot have hate without first having pride. Hence, it would appear that hate, indifference, arrogance etc are PRIDE
  8. I've never considered that and it may be accurate if self-love begins to conflict with loving someone else. I've always thought of it in the negative traditional sense such as exaggerated self-esteem, arrogance, conceit, and indifference. But as time passed, pride began to take on a positive connotation, such as a healthy self-esteem. The question would then seem to be, if pride can be a good thing and a bad thing, where exactly does one draw the line between a healthy and exaggerated self-esteem? Hence, it's hard to understand how pride can be the opposite of love, unless one understands God'
  9. I certainly don't disagree, and if you re-read my comments, you will see that I never said that it does.
  10. My original comment however will show that it's not about being special, or a "deeper, special" kind of belief.
  11. If you re-read my comments, you will see that they are about knowing that Christ EXISTS, not about knowing Christ better than someone else, or about believing in him more than someone else. And the reason I know Christ exists, is because he has revealed his existence to me. He has done the same for millions of other Christians and that is why we know he's alive because he has made himself known to us, not because we have a "deeper, special" kind of belief. When Christ makes himself known, it no longer has anything to do with belief. I have however, known followers of Christ, who had not e
  12. Christ said his followers would hear him and he sometimes speaks amazing things. Things that no other person knows. But you and I disagree and I am content to leave it at that. Best regards.
  13. From reading about your relationship with your wife, you seem to be a man of understanding and wisdom. Yet I wonder, if Christ were to reveal himself beyond doubt, would you receive him and follow him? I suspect probably not, and if that is the case, then the issue would not seem to be one of scientific proof, but of willingness. I do not understand why God would allow a world such as this. He didn't create it this way, yet the only way for him to have ensured absolute peace, would have been to create us without a free will, and hence pride would never have been an issue. We then wou
  14. I'm not sure I can answer all those without straying too far from the original question in this thread, but I'll try. All Christians agree that one must receive Christ and his Spirit in order to even begin to follow him. Beyond that, yes there are disagreements and a lot of them. But I don't think it's odd. God could have made everything perfectly clear but I believe the reason he didn't was because he wanted Christians to learn to mature. And there's no better way to do that, than to have people learn to overcome their pride, by discussing their differences. PRIDE is the problem of the h
  15. I see it a bit differently. Knowing something does not necessarily mean that it can be proven beyond doubt but that it has been proven beyond doubt. And to me, the existence of Jesus Christ has been proven beyond a doubt. Do I have such proof? It certainly is proof enough for me, for Christ makes himself known to people in different ways. But the question for you would seem to be, do you want proof and are you willing to follow Christ if he provides it? Most people just want the proof, but God only provides it to those who will follow him. For example, there is a question that the wo
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