Tully_Beaver

Have you read your own thread?

No. i haven't posted in it either.

Good logic... ... ....

 

Not really.

You can't drive an SUV because it pollutes the atmosphere boo hoo, but I can travel via ariplane that puts out quite a bit more pollutant gases etc. when i could just as easily travel by SUV (if tavelling over land and out out less emissions) or travel by sail boat (if crossing water).

makes sense to me.

But a person who truely raggs on an SUV driver would not travel by plane. By doing so would prove that they are a hypocrite.

These contain CO2 right?

I was just going to use them an example of how hypocritical the attack on SUV drivers is, in respect to contributing to global warming.

Consciousness is eating a bag of crisps,and knowing you dont have to sniff about,or rip the bag open to find out they are none left!

Wouldn't that be comonsense?

Has anyone else ever heard of superconsciosness?

What I was getting at is, when we die the energy that makes up us instead of leaving our body and becoming a whispy light like energy travelling around the physical world as a ghost, it passes over to a world made only of energy where time does not exist. I was suggesting that this energy world, or spirit world, exists inside and actually makes up matter.

Of course there is a source of energy, of all energy, I guess this would be God. In this spirit world there would be individual spirits/ entities/ personalities. I'm not too sure how this would link to your consciousness when living as a human, but I do understand that people talk about their past lives when regressed to their subconscious. So, maybe consciousness we experience when living as a human is more influenced by the human animal instincts, like sexual lust etc.

Just a couple of thoughts. I wish it hadn't gone scoo-whiff the other day, I had a really nice, well thought out essay typed , so this is just like I said a couple of thoughts. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any similar.

I just spent ages typing a few (short) paragraphs with some of my ideas and when I went to post it it fell through and I lost them.

So, if this gets through I wanted to say thanks to Phi_for_All for the reply.

I don't have time right now to go through all that again. I will though.

I get the impression you think you are speaking over everyone's head here' date=' Tully. Not at all. I am actually very humble. Just getting sick of having to repeat myself over and over

The reason you're getting such uninformative posts ( I wasn't looking for information. I was looking to start a discusion and get some oppinions. )

is that you are aksing questions that are too broad ( to get definitive answers, in a thread you started without reading anything else that's already been posted. Didn't release u had to read a load of posts prior to posting. How many would be substantial?

 

Please do yourself a favor and use the "Search" and "Search This Forum" tools at the top right and you will find that you are, in essence, walking into a library and asking, in a very loud voice, if they have any books on science.

Couldn't disagree with u more. This is an internet FORUM not a library. Amazing how u can tell that I am using a louder voice (i'm actually not using a loud voice at all) than anyone else who has started a thread in this froum. I am not asking for any books on science. I am (was) in ESSENCE trying to start up a discusion.

I will agree with u that "So what the F?" and "what h3ll is going on?" are pretty broad questions. However, "everything is made up of energy, right? " is not, and I think someone actually denied the fact that everything IS made up of energy. Also, at the end of my original post I included this "Anyone got any thoughts on this (should have had a question mark, it was late when I posted it) " and this "Just like to get some other opinions."

Seeing how that might have confused some, I posted this (is this the third time I have cut and pasted this??).........

yeah' date=' sorry I wasn't very specific in my first post, the existence of the spirit world and the possibily of non-physical attributes accounting for re-incarnation, ghosts etc. is what I was getting at.

 

I was thinking how if everything is made, held togther by energy then there could be kind of another "plane" where all that kinda stuff exists, a non-physical place.

 

Anyone else have any thoughts or comments? [/quote']

 

once again ....

I guess the answer to my original post is no, noone has any thoughts on this at all.

 

What I really think the problem is, is people who are so anti "creationism" (I think that's the word someone used in another post) they need to shoot down any idea's or discusions with basic science.

 

I can't see what the problem is, and I deff' can't see where science dissproves an afterlife.

 

This is another topic entirely. I don't see any relationship between this statement and your prior one. Perhaps someone else does.

yeah' date=' sorry I wasn't very specific in my first post, the existence of the spirit world and the possibily of non-physical attributes accounting for re-incarnation, ghosts etc. is what I was getting at.

 

I was thinking how if everything is made, held togther by energy then there could be kind of another "plane" where all that kinda stuff exists, a non-physical place. [/quote']

 

^^^^^this is the relationship I was getting at.

It's not intended to.

 

You need to actually understand these things before you can have theories about them.

"These things"? u mean atoms?' date=' the equation E=MC^2?, sub atomic particle?

What am I miss understanding?

When I say "everything" I'm including matter. Still, everything is made of energy...right?

^ my question

No. Matter is equivelant to energy, by the equation E=MC², meaning you can convert matter to energy and get a result based on that equation. But they are not the same.

^an answer to my question...

I guess the answer to my original post is no, noone has any thoughts on this at all.

No. Matter is equivelant to energy, by the equation E=MC², meaning you can convert matter to energy and get a result based on that equation. But they are not the same.

Thanks for the reply. The way I'm looking at it is....matter is made of atoms, which consists of n's, p's and e's, which in turn consist of all crazy kinds of quarks, which are energy. I don't think E=MC^2 dissporves that.

If you wish to approach the reincarnation issue I think it is a red herring to pursue the matter-energy equivalence route. What distinguishes life' date=' in part, from non-life, is the organisation of that matter-energy in local defiance of the Third Law of Thermodynamics.

Since there is no quality evidence [b']for [/b]a retention of meaningful organisation post mortem, and plenty of evidence against it, you would be better considering the possibility of non-physical attributes accounting for reincarnation, ghosts, the spirit world, etc.

yeah, sorry I wasn't very specific in my first post, the existence of the spirit world and the possibily of non-physical attributes accounting for re-incarnation, ghosts etc. is what I was getting at.

I was thinking how if everything is made, held togther by energy then there could be kind of another "plane" where all that kinda stuff exists, a non-physical place.

Anyone else have any thoughts or comments?

Yes, but when u think about it everything is made of energy right? (quarks an all)

no, you mean matter

When I say "everything" I'm including matter. Still, everything is made of energy...right?

Yes, but when u think about it everything is made of energy right? (quarks an all)

...that everything is made up of energy, right?

When u break anything down to it's smallest, it's energy. So what the F?

Apparently, when we die we still exist as energy so what h3ll is going on?

Anyone got any thoughts on this. I have read lots of books about past lives, reincarnation etc. Just like to get some other opinions.

Thanks, much appreciated.

Hi,

Are electrons, nuetrons, and protons actually small spheres or is that just an easy way to understand what's going on (like the bohr model of the atom)?

Have scientist seen these sub-atomic partiles under microscopes?

When a nuclear explosion happens is this what's going on, (in laymens terms bviously) somehow the atom is split, the protons and nuetrons are split, and the electron energy levels are split, this "strong nuclear force" holding, I guess when u think about, everything together get released and just "messes up" all the surrounding atoms?

Is that the only place this nuclear strong force occurs?

Thanks for the replies by the way.

Strong force.

what force?

Hi I'm new and this is my first post, so excuse me if this is a silly question. What holds neutrons and protons together?