Non-ontologic prove of perfect first cause

[lemgruber]

Axiom 1: A perfect thing is symmetric.
Axiom 2: Our universe is not symmetric.
Axiom 3: Imperfect things must have a cause
Axiom 3a: Further, the cause of an imperfect thing must be different from the thing itself.
Axiom 3b: Further, the cause of an imperfect thing must be perfect.

Accepting these five axioms gives

Theorem: Our universe was caused by some perfect thing (other than itself).

One model of these axioms would be:
"Symmetric" means having rotational or bilateral symmetry other than the trivial symmetry.
"Perfect" means having bilateral symmetry.
"Our universe" means the letter "Q".
"The cause of X" means the letter "I" for any X.

Yes -- under your assumptions, and using my model, the letter "I" does exist and is "perfect".

X is a variable, it could be "the universe" or anything else. This theorem is valid to X=Q

"Q" refers to a letter of the English/Latin alphabet, an oval with a slash on one side. It has neither rotational nor bilateral symmetry.

"I" refers to another letter of the English/Latin alphabet, a vertical line. It has both rotational and bilateral symmetry.


This axioms are in true drift of postulates of theory of Relativity General, was taken of one version of possible universe create by Kurt Godel, in which is possible came back in time, allow to a being make yourself, one of consequences will be that being could turned back how many times if necessary to became a perfect being, but remember we are in Godel's universe, in that, the universe is rotational and not expansive, but the simple possibility of time came back make the law of cause and effect be possible of break it, until here we work inside of parameters of a Godel's Universe.
Now we work out of this universe, and prove than our universe can't be perfect, why? simple, because exists variation of symmetry, exist beings not symmetrycs, in all kingdom, animal, vegetable and mineral, in a perfect universe all the things must to be necessary total symmetryc.
The axioms above was test by computer program, and was proved that features worth to our universe.
What means that: the must have exist a first cause perfect or perfect thing ( if you prefer) to be possible the existence of our universe, in actual model. I must insist this not a prove ontological ( not empirical) It's drift of material world postulates, presents in theory of Relativity, the hard work was realized by Einstein and Godel, I joint the parts, just it, my friend Greathouse, that have much more knowledge of mathematics than me, and deserves much of this work, he put the theorem to be tested in program.

I like to thanks to many entity which help me to see this beautiful, and a many men, who stimulated the search for the truth,


Lucio

[imatfaal]

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[Strange]

Axiom 1: A perfect thing is symmetric.

 

I see no reason to think that is true. Unless you define "perfect" to mean symmetrical but then that is the fallacy of begging the question (which is remarkably common in discussions of god for some reason).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

 

Axiom 2: Our universe is not symmetric.

 

Unfortunately, observations shows this to be false.

 

Axiom 3: Imperfect things must have a cause

 

Why?

 

Axiom 3a: Further, the cause of an imperfect thing must be different from the thing itself.

 

Why?

 

Axiom 3b: Further, the cause of an imperfect thing must be perfect.

 

Why?

 

Accepting these five axioms gives

 

I see no reason to accept any of them. Your conclusion is unsupported.

 

 

This axioms are in true drift of postulates of theory of Relativity General

 

What!? This has nothing to do with the postulates of relativity. Well, except in as far as the postulates of relativity assume certain symmetries that you claim don't exist.

 

 

The axioms above was test by computer program, and was proved that features worth to our universe.

 

You mean you wrote a program that reproduced your errors. Well done.

 

 

I like to thanks to many entity which help me to see this beautiful, and a many men, who stimulated the search for the truth,

 

I think it is said that you have deceived yourself in this way. It is a waste of the brain that your god gave you.

 

And it is also sad that your faith is so weak that you have to try and invent false "proofs".