Le Repteux Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Heliocentrism was not based on observations before we had good telescopes, and Copernicus even said that he only invented it to facilitate calculations, which means that he did not think it could be objectively tested. Edited December 7, 2014 by Le Repteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Heliocentrism was not based on observations before we had good telescopes, and Copernicus even said that he only invented it to facilitate calculations, which means that he did not think it could be objectively tested. Are you serious? Do you not realise the observations of planetary motion were what led to the notion of Heliocentrism? The calculations that were facilitated were calculations of planetary motion, seeking to predict future observations based upon past observations. Yes, can you remember me which "points in my hypothesis are contrary to observations" please? There are numerous examples. Simply reread the thread and note where other members have pointed these out to you. I give you an example to start with. You assert that neutrinos have an internal structure. No observation has suggested that this is so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Repteux Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Are you serious? Do you not realise the observations of planetary motion were what led to the notion of Heliocentrism? The calculations that were facilitated were calculations of planetary motion, seeking to predict future observations based upon past observations. I'm as serious as Wiki can be. It says that nothing could tell that heliocentrism was right before Galileo could see the planets going with his new telescope, which means that all the scientists who proposed that hypothesis before him did not base it on evidence, but on speculation. There are numerous examples. Simply reread the thread and note where other members have pointed these out to you. I give you an example to start with. You assert that neutrinos have an internal structure. No observation has suggested that this is so. I said that if neutrinos had mass, and that mass was due to the small steps between bonded particles, then neutrinos should have components. It was thus an hypothesis, not an assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzt Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) I said that if neutrinos had mass, and that mass was due to the small steps between bonded particles, then neutrinos should have components. It was thus an hypothesis, not an assertion. For your education, neutrino has mass and its mass has nothing to do with the crank theory of "small steps". Contrary to the crank theory of "small steps" neutrino has no "components". Edited December 8, 2014 by xyzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 ! Moderator Note This nonsense has gone on far too long. There is no model, there are no testable predictions, there is no evidence to back up any of the claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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