5614 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 can someone go over the basics of all the components i need for a network between 2, soon 3 computer sharing broadband, i dont really want an admin, so equal rights are ok, and i dont want a certain computer to be on to access the internet, so what do i need, & does windows XP have a network wizard & does it matter that im linking XP with '98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 You're best off getting a router (preferably with onboard intrusion detection and firewall) to distribute the connection between the PCs (like a hub would on a closed network). That will allow each PC to access both the net and each other. Afaik XP has a networking wizard. I don't know what the issues are with XP <-> 98 connectivity but I'll bet there are plenty of help resources devoted to that on the Windows tech site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 ok, so i do i just plug the internet into the router? and then a network card to the computers and connect the computer [via network card] to the router via a network cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Pretty much yeah! I just bought a LAN/wireless router myself. If you get a wireless router you have the option of plugging your PCs in with the network cables, or using a USB wireless antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 watch it with wireless, people walking by can use it if they have a wireless reciever, you have to downlaod a special program to stop unathorized users [eg. people walking down the street with a laptop] using your internet. i was watching a program about it recently, some guy walked down the street using internet from wireless networks in house's who didnt have this protection, i dont know what it is or where to get it from though, try searching google or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 When I get around to installing it on Friday when the new connection goes in, it'll be using 256-bit encryption with no public keys. I don't have any problem with people getting a free wireless connection (like my next door neighbour for instance), but I'm not chancing network penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 encryption that was it, how do you do it, or is it a program, where do you get it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Any half-decent router will come with all the software/firmware and instructions you need. Maplins and CCL have some good routers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 does it matter that im linking XP with '98 Done it myself. No problem there. The only problem was that when we upgraded the 98 to XP we now can't send files up and down (but internet our internet, being piped off of one computer, does work). Before there was a "Shared Documents" folder, but now each computer has one and the two are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 98 can't use NTFS, that's why. It's a FAT32 operating system. Luckily though XP can read either file system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 change of subject: Routers: im gonna get a broadband router, but the shop person said that i HAVE to have a 'master computer' which hosts the internet..... is this true? cant i have a router which allows computer to work on the internet without a host computer? [use the internet regardless of the other computres?] just plug the internet into the router? and NO actuall host / master computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertlee Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 here is a famous company's site who sells wireless network that I love most.... with manuals and drivers too http://www.sitecom.com/index.php 5614, for your last post, just use a router that connects to the internet (you are right, connect the internet plug to the router), and while other computers connect to the router, therefore, there will be no master computer. hope it helps Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 change of subject: Routers: im gonna get a broadband router' date=' but the shop person said that i HAVE to have a 'master computer' which hosts the internet..... is this true? cant i have a router which allows computer to work on the internet without a host computer? [use the internet regardless of the other computres?'] just plug the internet into the router? and NO actuall host / master computer They are talking crap; you are right. That's THE POINT of having a router - as the name suggests it routes TCP/IP packets. I recently bought a Sitecom WL-025 wireless router. It's very nice. It has taken over all the functions of the gateway PC that it replaced, including hardware firewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 I wish my wireless LAN worked. O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 This is true providing you have a ADSL modem that you can plug into the router. Otherwise all you have is a glorified switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 You'd still need the modem if you were using a gateway - that makes no odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Just pointing out that if he's got a USB modem then it's not going to work with a standard router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Oh, I see what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 if i have a USB modem, is there anything i can do, or d oi just have to buy a new modem... e.g. is there a converter from USB --> RJ45 [or wtvr it is] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 There's nothing I've heard of that can do that I'm afraid. I would recommend a router/modem/firewall all in one. Alternatively you could setup a PC to act as a... 'master computer' which hosts the internet..... Sometimes stupid shop assistants are just ignorant of alternatives. He's probably only dealt with people with USB modems so his advice is correct to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 what about if i buy a router with inbuilt modem, then do i need a master computer, or if the modem is RJ45? then can u do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossoi Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 If the modem is built into the router or is has an RJ45 port then you don't need a "master computer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 ok, i found a router with inbuit modem.... info: its the PT-3810: http://www.puretek.com.tw/product/adsl%20modem/adsl%20modem.htm image: http://www.puretek.com.tw/product/adsl%20modem/dm/3808_E.jpg but it only has one output, what output is it.... e.g. RJ45 or USB and also do i just use a hub if i want more than one computer? do hubs accept RJ45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuTze Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 do hubs accept RJ45?Yes, and a cheap one will set you back around £20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 i have had my network installed for a while, the internet plugs into the router, and two computers are plugged into the router. one computer is windows '98 the other XP however they computers still can't "see" each other, any idea why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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