Prem Jalani Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Dear sir I want to make jelled methanol. How i am do this. please help about this. prem jalani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemSiddiqui Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Dear sirI want to make jelled methanol. How i am do this. please help about this. prem jalani Hi Prem, First of all you don't have to be too formal here. This forum is for friendly discussion. Secondly, why you want to make gel methanol for. Tell me and i shall try to help. Is it for a project you were assigned? Good day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prem Jalani Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Hi Prem, First of all you don't have to be too formal here. This forum is for friendly discussion. Secondly, why you want to make gel methanol for. Tell me and i shall try to help. Is it for a project you were assigned? Good day! Hi Mr. siddiqui Good Morning i want to make dish warmer fuel jel.Generic name of this product is jelled methanol.this product used by hotel industries & catrers for food warming in parties.This is a low cost product. main ingredients of this product is methanol & water.selling price of finel product is App. 30.00 per Kg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemSiddiqui Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Ok! I must admit I don't know how to make metanol go jelly like but you could use ethanol as a fuel..afterall its fuel you are talking about. Sorry to be of no further help. If i hear anything pertaining you query which is useful, i'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukesh bali Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Could someone guide me regarding manufacturing Methanol or Ethanol based fuel gel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexein Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) Defer to post below Edited March 4, 2009 by Alexein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDNA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 What you have described seems to be 'Sterno' Canned Heat (even generic brands are called Sterno). Sterno is made from ethanol, methanol, water and an oxide gelling agent Methanol is only added to make it too toxic to drink (denature). I found this about making your own.......... Make Your Own Gelled Alcohol Fuel - Canned Heat Extreme do it yourselfers can make their own gelled fuel at home with by mixing alcohol and calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4). The following instructions and measurements are from the Montville High School Science Departmental. 1. Add 25g of crushed chalk or egg shells (calcium carbonate-CaCO3) to 100ml of vinegar (water and acetic acid - CH3CO2H) and stir for about 5 minutes. This should produce carbon dioxide (CO2), calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4) and water (H2O) plus leave you with some left over chalk (CaCO3). If you are guessing on how much chalk to add, just make sure that there is a little extra after 5 minutes of stirring. 2. Remove the excess chalk by filtering your mix through some filter paper (coffee filter or napkin can be used). Set a funnel in a jar, place your filter in it and pour your suspension through it. 3. Mark the level of your solution in its container and allow your solution to evaporate off about half that volume to remove the excess water. Place your solution in an oven set on low heat or place it out in the sun to dry. If you went to far - just add the missing water. Note - if you like, you can dry out your solution completely and store the remaining dried calcium acetate for future use. 4. If your solution isn't already in the container you want your gel in, then pour it in there now. 5. Add 30ml of alcohol (ethanol, methanol, or isopropanol) to your solution and watch the gel form. Do not stir. 6. Once the reaction in complete, pour off any extra fuel. http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jainrjndr Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear sir want to know the procedure of making ethanol based fuel gel,for warming chifing dish for catters.sidharth jain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka092 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear sirwant to know the procedure of making ethanol based fuel gel,for warming chifing dish for catters.sidharth jain DrDNA posted step-by-step instructions on how to make ethanol gel for warming. Look at that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anurag Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Dear sir want to know the procedure of making ethanol based fuel gel,for warming chifing dish for catters.sidharth jain Making alcohol gel - works for methanol, ethanol and iso-propanol. Ingredients and %age by weight 1. Carboxy Methyl Cellulose (CMC) 1% 2. Water 39-40% 3. Alcohol 60-61% Add carboxy methyl cellulose slowly to water little by little allowing the former to mix thoroughly. Adding the entire CMC all at once will cause it to form lump which will be very difficult to dissolve. The result should be a thick paste. Add alcohol to this paste by gently stirring the mixture. The result would be a combustible gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConejovampirO Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Hey, I ate at a restaurant today and they were using this methanol gel. It was curious that after the waitress started the fire, she poured salt on it to make the reaction intensify. Does anyone know what the reaction between the gel and the salt is? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firemt Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 1299360736[/url]' post='593916']Hey, I ate at a restaurant today and they were using this methanol gel. It was curious that after the waitress started the fire, she poured salt on it to make the reaction intensify. Does anyone know what the reaction between the gel and the salt is? Thanks The salt was added to allow you to see the flame. That's all. Etoh burns blue which it hard to see, adding the salt causes an impurity which alters the flame color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewmon Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The salt was added to allow you to see the flame. Yeah, I have used Sterno and other such products, and their barely visible flames can cause problems, especially with little kids around. One would think at least one (or more) makers of the cans of jellied alcohols would include an adulterant in the jelly (such as salt) that would automatically produce an markedly visible flame. I haven't come across one yet. It's as if the makers want you to burn your fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdi dalem Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Dear sir I want to make jelled methanol. How i am do this. please help about this. prem jalani i hope this will help you how to make jellied methanol its call sterno watch this video at https://youtu.be/emPVLTRw960 Edited September 16, 2016 by abdi dalem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azhar Titu Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 3/5/2009 at 3:28 AM, DrDNA said: What you have described seems to be 'Sterno' Canned Heat (even generic brands are called Sterno). Sterno is made from ethanol, methanol, water and an oxide gelling agent Methanol is only added to make it too toxic to drink (denature). I found this about making your own.......... Make Your Own Gelled Alcohol Fuel - Canned Heat Extreme do it yourselfers can make their own gelled fuel at home with by mixing alcohol and calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4). The following instructions and measurements are from the Montville High School Science Departmental. 1. Add 25g of crushed chalk or egg shells (calcium carbonate-CaCO3) to 100ml of vinegar (water and acetic acid - CH3CO2H) and stir for about 5 minutes. This should produce carbon dioxide (CO2), calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4) and water (H2O) plus leave you with some left over chalk (CaCO3). If you are guessing on how much chalk to add, just make sure that there is a little extra after 5 minutes of stirring. 2. Remove the excess chalk by filtering your mix through some filter paper (coffee filter or napkin can be used). Set a funnel in a jar, place your filter in it and pour your suspension through it. 3. Mark the level of your solution in its container and allow your solution to evaporate off about half that volume to remove the excess water. Place your solution in an oven set on low heat or place it out in the sun to dry. If you went to far - just add the missing water. Note - if you like, you can dry out your solution completely and store the remaining dried calcium acetate for future use. 4. If your solution isn't already in the container you want your gel in, then pour it in there now. 5. Add 30ml of alcohol (ethanol, methanol, or isopropanol) to your solution and watch the gel form. Do not stir. 6. Once the reaction in complete, pour off any extra fuel. http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm Dear I have tried to make methanol gel but it is not proper way. It has other composition. Please share here for public learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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