kitkitkit Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Please, please could some nice person out there tell me how to make sulphur...easily, i dont have any chemicals available to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 you can`t MAKE sulpher, it`s an element. but if you goto a garden supplier you`ll be able to buy it in powder form in little plastic bottles that you spray on plants to combat certain pests and diseases, it doesn`t cost alot either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :you can`t MAKE sulpher, it`s an element. However, you can make it by reacting a sulpher compound, to produce the element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 there aren`t many ways to do this that don`t require large and expensive aparatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :there aren`t many ways to do this that don`t require large and expensive aparatus. That's not what you said, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 because it wouldn`t be MAKING sulpher would it, it`s EXTRACTING existing sulpher, and that`s not what he asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :because it wouldn`t be MAKING sulpher would it, it`s EXTRACTING existing sulpher, and that`s not what he asked Yes it would be, by the definition of 'make', which includes 'To change from one form or function to another:' 'To achieve, produce, or attain:' 'To bring into existence by shaping, modifying, or putting together material;' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :oic, so this was all a semantics game on your part, well whatever, you may play with yourself now, it`s not a game I`m interested in. I think you'll find that you were the one who brought semantics into it. 'You used the wrong word!' 'No he didn't' 'I don't like this argument' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 In addition and BACK ON TOPIC, you may also buy sulpher Chips they`re used for long term soil PH regulation. you`ll find these at agricultural shops/warehouses. I will point out however, from reading all your other posts and threads, I assume you wish to use this sulpher for pyrotechnic reasons, the PH of sulpher is NOT neutral over time, it will make acids, and these acids can make your end product VERY unstable! especialy with chlorates, in fact NEVER mix elemental sulpher with a Chlorate or perchlorate, it can deflagrate at ANY TIME! without warning!. I assume you`re thinking of making ordinary BP, or green meal. stick to Nitrates with sulpher only! you`ll be quite safe then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkitkit Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 Thanks everbody, please no more argueing. So you say that you can buy sulphur? Thats good (by the way that was a retorical question). Do you know where i could get some saltpetre? (that wasnt a retorical question). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 ROFLOL, I somehow KNEW the saltpeter question was coming next )))) [edit] you`ll not be able to buy saltpter directly unless you`re licensed. you CAN however buy Nitro chalk or Nitrate of Soda from the same places you`de get your sulpher from. word of advice, do NOT buy them on the same day and always use Cash! you`ll have the law thinking yer a stooopid terrorist rather that a curious teeny bomber if/when you get any of the stuff I just mentioned, I`ll walk you through the conversion process to make Saltpeter (potassium nitrate). how`s that sound for a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitkitkit Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 Is saltpetre actually essential in making the product go bang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed84c Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 If you have a cellar; the white precipitate on the walls is salpeter where the K and N in the soild reacts with cement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 you`ll find the white stuff is largely composed of calcium salts, with a percentage of sodium nitrate (chile saltpeter). you`ll need quite alot of it though! as for the "Bang" well ordinary gunpowder properly made will not actualy go "bang" unless confined, then it will create what`s called a "Mechanical Explosion", the Home Made variety (green meal) is even less likely to, although it`s great for making small rocket engines with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter1011 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 is there any other way to make saltpeter apart from using cow poo and stale urine. thanks for the tip on sulphur, and can u buy sulpher in a power form is it that what the blocks are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 eh...bubble some nitric anhydride into a solution containing a K salt that has a weak anion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter1011 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 sorry but im not very educated in chemistry. how do u bubble nitric anhydride and were do u get it from? if u carnt tell me, then i thank u for ur help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 nitric anhydride is NO2. when you hydrate it (add it to water) you get HNO3 (nitric acid). NO2 is quite nasty stuff; it will kill you easily if you inhale considering there's plenty of H2O in you to have turn acidic. of course, if you do a reaction carefully, you can oxidize NH3, collect the gas then add that to the solution to get your nitrate salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 actually, scratch that; NO2 is nitrous anhydride; it forms HNO2. nitric anhydride is N2O5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurfSciGuy Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 And as far as I am away you won't be able to get either of them without an EUA (end user agreement). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 nitric anhydride and nitrous anhydride? nitrous anhydride is easy to produce with simple chemicals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurfSciGuy Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 nitric anhydride and nitrous anhydride? nitrous anhydride is easy to produce with simple chemicals... That doesn't make it legal. It is easy to produce TNT and LSD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 eh, tnt is sketchy. picric acid would be a bit more sensible considering it's hard to add that methyl group and replace the OOH. lsd is quite complicated also. also, i'd like to add that just about any experiment you do at home is illegal. notice how so many products say "using this product in any way other than its intended use is illegal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 can u buy sulpher in a power form is it that what the blocks are. the "blocks" I`de have to see to let you know either way.as for powder form, Sure you can, all day long it`s used to dust Onions for over-wintering, you`ll get it from most kitchen garden or agricultural shops, and you can also get the sulpher chips as a soil PH adjuster from same shops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 eh' date=' tnt is sketchy. picric acid would be a bit more sensible considering it's hard to add that methyl group and replace the OOH. lsd is quite complicated also. also, i'd like to add that just about any experiment you do at home is illegal. notice how so many products say "using this product in any way other than its intended use is illegal"?[/quote'] LOL, where did TNT or TNP come into it? are ya sure ya have the right forum? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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