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EdEarl. I appreciate your postings. You are very informative and you explain things well. I respect your ideas. I like your thoughts about DM and DE and I think your theory about analogs to regular matter could have merit. Their as good as any that I've heard. With my background, I can assure you that wild ass guesses or WAGS as we called them were something we did quite alot of. They were usually our first step in problem solving (right after "Define the problem."). Do you suppose, by your theory, that there could be some interactions between the analogs and regular matter? Perhaps those interactions could help account for DE?

I want to thank all of you that have contributed to this discussion. You do a great job. After reading these questions and answers, I have a question that you might help me with. Could it be that dark matter is simply the elemental particles that we know exist minus the forces and charges (except, perhaps, for gravity) that make them into what we see as regular matter? Further, could it be that the regular matter is being formed somehow by a process which applies these forces and charges to dark matter in an ongoing way. This would explain dark energy, as well as, the formation of dark matter around regular matter since it is being processed into regular matter. Basically, dark matter would be raw material for regular matter.

I guess the consensus here is that DE and DM is three dimensional and not two dimensional. It would sure be more fun to talk about if it were two dimensional. I respect and appreciate the time you folks put into answering my question. You do a great job and this is a very interesting forum. Thank you very much. By the way, I have been watching the videos of Leonard Susskind and they are great and alot to take in. Sometimes, when I listen to these physicists, their viewpoint makes me think of (to use an analogy) the difference in designing an aircraft that could fly itself with no assistance and one with a pilot. The self contained aircraft requires a considerably more complex system to make it automonous than a piloted one. I'm not saying they are wrong, but sometimes it seems they overcomplicate to support whatever view they have. On the other hand, they make some very good cases for what they believe and I enjoy listening to them. I will check in on these forums from time to time. Again, thanks.

As you know, according to Einstein's theory, you get a massive amount of energy from a small amount of matter and I suppose the reverse is true if you could manipulate energy. On a dimensional basis, I assume that one dimension would be perhaps a line and two dimensions would pull the line sideways creating a flat plane. Any matter or energy along that plane would most likely exist more like data or imformation not as matter or energy as we would view it in three dimensions since it would have no height. I was just wondering if it is possible that a wave of charges and forces passing over this two dimensional plane of data could, for a brief instant, raise up a third dimension thus creating the three dimensions that we exist in. Of course, this wave is continuous and our consciousness and senses would view this as Time or Space Time. I guess you could think of it as writing on a scroll or making a fabric. To make such a system work, I don't know, but it looks to me like there would need to be some sort of scripted imformation on that surface in order to animate the third dimension. Maybe that application is accomplished at the quantum level by using something like the Higgs boson. Maybe that's stretching it too far. I'm just asking what you think about this not trying to make some new theory. Physics is not what I do. Thank you for your time.

I kind of think of a dimension more as an aspect of existence than a direction. But, thats just me. I loved the answer from AJB. "In what sense?" My answer to that is "nonsense" perhaps. I have done quite alot of systems analysis over the years and you have to understand that in order for me to see systems, I have to find a way to frame them in my mind. That being said, and as you know, there are many similarities among electrical, hydraulic and pneumatic systems. But, sometimes I think about the things you physics types ponder and wonder if there is a system at work here too. I asked if dark energy and dark matter could be just two dimensional because it seems more logical, given what I've read, that Time might be more like a wave of forces and charges passing over a two dimensional surface such as dark energy, raising it for an instant to three dimensions and then leaving two dimensional dark matter as a result. That wave might not be any wider that the life of a Higgs, but it could be 14 or 15 billion years wide and stretching. Please understand that I do not claim to be a scientist at all, but just wondering what you guys think about that possibility. Sorry, I meant 14 or 15 billion years long, not wide.

Could it be possible that dark energy and dark matter are just two dimensional?