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It still makes no sense. Apache software is produced by volunteers (which makes it "unofficial" by your definition):
The official version is produced by volunteers.
Also, you are permitted to produce your own version of Apache. And you are even permitted to offer it for sale. (As long as you comply with the license terms.) It is no more or less official than any other version. Yours would be the official "Sensei Apache".
I think his point is the intention of the authors of each product.
I think it has been stated by many other programmers is that standardization of a language is in context with the standard operating system used. .NET is mainly a Windows-based framework that has the intention of running .NET applications, i.e. C# applications.
Wikipedia:
The .NET Framework (pronounced dot net) is a software framework developed by Microsoft that runs primarily on Microsoft Windows. It includes a large class library known as Framework Class Library (FCL) and provides language interoperability (each language can use code written in other languages) across severalprogramming languages. Programs written for .NET Framework execute in a software environment (as contrasted to hardware environment), known as Common Language Runtime (CLR), an application virtual machine that provides services such as security, memory management, and exception handling. FCL and CLR together constitute .NET Framework.
C#[note 2] (pronounced as see sharp) is a multi-paradigm programming language encompassing strong typing, imperative, declarative, functional, generic, object-oriented(class-based), and component-oriented programming disciplines. It was developed by Microsoft within its .NET initiative and later approved as a standard by Ecma(ECMA-334) and ISO (ISO/IEC 23270:2006). C# is one of the programming languages designed for the Common Language Infrastructure.On the other hand, the other languages are not as closed in to a "mother" operating system because they weren't design with intention to a particular OS in the first place. I think that presents his point.
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I'd say that's all mostly wrong.
- There's nothing in particular that makes C# "slow". Sure it compiles down to an intermediate language (similar to Java) but with modern CPU's and the JIT compiler, you'd hardly know it. Certainly if you want ultimate speed something like C++ compiled to native code (and recent moves in .Net mean you can get that for C# anyway) or even assembler, but there's nothing about C# that makes it slow for a "huge application" - that need for speed is more about the particular type of application, not the size. Something with gobs of calculations being done in a simulation, might be better in C++ (or whatever) than C#, e.g. while people were sad to see Microsoft drop support for XNA, which made C# development for DirectX easier (though Unity is now helping with that), most real hard core games are built in C++.
Further, Mono aside, while it's true C# (and .Net) generally target the Windows platform, that doesn't mean it's best (as implied) only for "Windows Applications". Plenty of heavily used websites (yes, with the site itself running on a Windows server) are built with Asp.Net (Web Forms or MVC) - and most of those are built with C# on the server side.
- "web-server application development is becoming more important in the market of web development" seems a bit of a tautology. If taken as "web development is important", there's no reason why PHP is specifically better than C#. That is, I'm not saying PHP is bad to learn, I just don't see why you'd downgrade C# and upgrade PHP on the basis of what you wrote.
I don't see how this confirms my post as "mostly wrong," as you just further confirmed my point.
Although, I could change the wording from slow to "relatively slow to other languages such as Java and C++." However, I don't see how that affects my point that C# shouldn't be that high in the list, considering that other languages have more favorable speed and efficiency, in my opinion.
The second point I agree and disagree with. While I would say that equal importance should be placed on all language in regards to their features, the list gives emphasis on "good scope."
"'web-server application development is becoming more important in the market of web development' seems a bit of a tautology."I don't see how that is so. I was referring to the fact that efficiency is very important in web development due to how stringent it is to keep web applications up to speed in order to keep user-end responses fast so that customers do not fall away from a particular product. This is due to the attention span of the common user. Considering how web-based our society is now and how business opportunities rest in this area, I would say C# falls lower than PHP. However, this does not make C# completely void, but I did not state it was void in the first place.
Absolutely. I do believe LAMPS has the majority. But that wasn't what the post I responded to was about.
I would say my post was implying that point, although it may not have seemed to be. Again, the article was concerned with "good scope," and I don't believe, and challenged the point of, C# fits that high in regard to that requirement.
EDIT: I would like to present the big BUT in this situation because we are describing this in "good scope"
Java was too good, C# came late and attracted many ppl working on Windows and made them to be depended on windows (kinda of win-win for Microsoft). Java is portable and makes few compromises. Both Java and C# are primarily used for developing websites, but not anymore funtional languages (Javascript) will rule the internet down the lane. Java and Internet helped each other grow, but not anymore; being a java programmers gives me a pride that we ruled internet once (C# never had a chance).C# is standardized, same time its is like marrying Windows :/ Java on the other hand was received well by open source communities and that it is truely portable (compared to C#). Both has pit falls and advantages, if you are trying to ignite a versus debate, don't, moderators will mark this as replica; there are enough arguments in Internet.
This is why I like/hate debates like this. While it is true that one language is more efficient, standardization and popular use is to be taken into consideration, which is probably why it was so high on the list. Ruby on Rails, for example, is not actually that great in comparison to other packages.
- There's nothing in particular that makes C# "slow". Sure it compiles down to an intermediate language (similar to Java) but with modern CPU's and the JIT compiler, you'd hardly know it. Certainly if you want ultimate speed something like C++ compiled to native code (and recent moves in .Net mean you can get that for C# anyway) or even assembler, but there's nothing about C# that makes it slow for a "huge application" - that need for speed is more about the particular type of application, not the size. Something with gobs of calculations being done in a simulation, might be better in C++ (or whatever) than C#, e.g. while people were sad to see Microsoft drop support for XNA, which made C# development for DirectX easier (though Unity is now helping with that), most real hard core games are built in C++.
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Regards
Abhishek
I would have to criticize the list as there are some languages on there that don't make sense for their position:
- Microsoft C#: While it is pretty good for developing Windows Applications, it can get pretty slow if you are developing a huge application, which is what is most likely going to occur in business. Many sidesteps have to be taken to account for this.
- PHP, I would think, would be higher in the list considering how web-server application development is becoming more important in the market of web development.
From there, I think web development languages are equal in importance. That's just my opinion though.
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Here is another arrangement, of the same 12 sections, showing the four Northern "polar" divisions, the four equatorial divisions, and the four Southern "polar" divisions.
Still would like to know, if anyone can do the math, if the sides of the diamonds are exactly r or not.
(When measured on the surface of the sphere.)
Regards, TAR
What math are you looking for?
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It's not. See post #11 above.
Wait, I thought this site was IP.Board hosted. Nevermind then.
That's a good point, but even the laws of one's own nation do not give them license to say whatever they want nor that this site has to host or display any and every comment that any and every person makes. I believe that's sort of the point of this thread.That is true, but I am just giving the point that the laws of the governing nation have some part in it. The administrators can do whatever they want if it is within the laws of their nation.
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I think so. Individuals using facebook have been arrested and prosecuted the UK, but as far as I know facebook itself has not been prosecuted. I will have to look up the details, but for sure some existing UK law on liable, copyright, child pornography and similar applies to the internet.
I was assuming the same when speaking of the forum as if it were a product within the United States. Since, technically, the product is hosted in the United States(if I am no mistaken), the laws of the United States apply with the forum. However, even if that is the case the members must oblige by the laws of their own nation.
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Since the topic comes up every so often, here's a good summary on why internet moderation (among other things, like boycotts) is not a violation of free speech rights

I don't even know why we bother even discussing the topic. I think I have talked about this before, but a website is considered private property when it is run on private servers. Therefore, a person has the right to regulate what occurs within that website unless it is against Federal law(and inhibiting free speech on private property is not considered a crime within Federal law).
Though I think you posted about this because of the awesome comic.

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I feel most schools really focus more on providing English and other fields while failing to provide other fields in mathematics. Teachers do sometimes do extras when teaching certain topics, but never get deeply into the subjects. Thanks for providing the link.
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Just because this definition doesn't show the beauty or power doesn't make it a bad definition, though. A definition doesn't have to describe every aspect of something.
I don't think the beauty of it is the problem. The problem lies in its vagueness.
Mathematics is the abstract study of numbers, shape, structure and change.In my opinion, the definition needs more specific explanations. The fact that it only includes numbers, shapes, structure and change just shows that it lacks an understanding of predictable additions to mathematics.
It seems any intelligent animal or alien, would agree on math, it's always a win-win situation, any primate or parrot would agree with us on the same math. If in a distant galaxy there are aliens with only three fingers per hand, I bet they would have a base 6 numeral system, if we met each other we would agree on math, but we would have to compromise, change even the symbols, change our base 10 system, or learn their 6 base system, or compromise, agree, and create something in the middle, like a base 8 system...
The problem with this assertion is we assume that everything will have humanly concepts or thoughts. For example, in our culture of how things will look on a different planet, we always seem to give a structure to the anatomy of the organisms going to be found on other planets. The problem is we can only make accurate predictions on what we have observed, and then build onto those predictions.
Aliens may even have a better way of handling the measurements of systems than mathematics. However, this could lead to a possibility that mathematics is simply a branch of a higher unknown study.
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Since we are part of the universe, is both. Math allows us to have an approximation of reality, without math we wouldn't have that approximation either.
I think the question was pertaining to whether it is a human construct or a Universal language.
Many mathematicians hold the platonic view of Mathematics, where nature actually has it embedded within itself and uses it as a way of developing itself to form structures such as we observe within science.
The other view is that though mathematics has a build up that is similar to nature, it is only a prediction to what it is observed(I hold the platonic view).
Popular culture within science mostly holds the platonic view because it just seems more philosophically fit that there is an underlying language behind the structure of the Universe. For one, it shows there is an underlying unity between everything whether observably connected or not. The other factor is if everything can be represented with mathematics then we know we can explain everything of the Universe in a mathematical point of view(though, this would only apply to the observable).




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There is a lot of documentation on javascript.
http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp