davidneff

The de Beer quote (15) is one that's from a credible source, but was taken from something written in a high school reader and not in a peer-reviewed paper. There's a pretty good debunking here, from a debate the ICR conveniently forgot to mention.

Thanks for the website link!

ive personally grown very tired of arguing with creationists

my personal argument is this:

if you are so certain of creationism, prove it with science

we have plenty of evidence, you don't have a 5000 year old story book

 

 

 

 

 

 

its pointless to argue against belief, it doesn't need evidence, it just is

 

 

 

 

This. They think disproving evolution proves Creation. WRONG on so many levels.

Given the prevalence of ellipses, I would be confident as well. But, refreshingly, the citations are actually given for the quotes.

True. At least they have sources. I don't have access to any of their sources and I'm wondering if those that do can give me the context.

Hi guys,

First please forgive me if this is not the correct place to post this. I haven't found any better place so this is where I'm posting this. If this is not the correct place, moderators please move this.

I am typing an article in response to the ICR's article The Vanishing Case for Evolution (I'm a biology major) and he has some interesting "quotes" from Evolutioinists. I am wondering if anyone can give me the full quotes because I'm fairly confident that these are quote mines. You can see the quotes in the URL provided.

What you ask has been done so many times on this forum I suggest you search the forum for threads like that that have been hashed out over and over.

 

Barring that I suggest you watch this video, it explains the things you ask easily and concisely.

 

 

This is one of an entire series that makes science easy to understand...

Thanks for that video. LOL @ Ken Ham and the Creationists. Taking scientific advice from them is akin to taking historical advice from a holocaust denier.

And thanks to anyone else that replied.

Hey guys,

I've been thinking about getting a degree in biology (I'm entering my senior year in high school) and I want to know what my possible career choices are with a biology degree.

Thanks,

Dave

Hello guys,

Forgive me. I am new to the forum and relatively new to studying evolution (I'm an apostate of Christianity and YEC so I'm relatively new to learning about stuff like this) and I have a few questions about how speciation works and how it is detected.

1. What is the best definition for speciation?
2. Has speciation ever been observed?
   1. If yes, can you cite me some good examples?
   2. If yes, can you prove that this was a case of speciation?
   3. How do you falsify a supposed speciation event?

According to the Talk.Origins archive (one of my favourite resources):

How then can there be changes in the upper levels of the taxonomy?

One of my creationists friends asked me how and at what point, does a dog become/gives birth to a non-dog.

Thank you for taking time to read (and hopefully answer) these questions. Once again, I'm new to the study of evolution. Hopefully, I will take biology courses in college.

References

1. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB910_1.html

Hello everyone,

My name is David. I am 17 and am from Maryland. I love reading, writing, and debating. My favourite areas of science are biology and astrophysics/astronomy