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Ahh, off-course, I forgot to mention, this is all to be taken lightly, as i gave a prompt to AI, Dawkins should refute the theory, and Kaku should back me up; by default they both would just dismiss it, as its not based on any scientific evidence.

focus is on the ai, since debate is a generated content, thought may be interesting and fun.

Mysteries about consciousness, I dont know...

Hello, I had a little fun with ChatGPT. I gave it some of my theory about consciousness and asked it to act as Richard Dawkins giving a counterargument. Then, Michio Kaku backed it up As we reflect upon ourselves, we are drawn towards something within us that is timeless, something beyond our physical selves that we cannot fully comprehend. This inner essence, this consciousness, is the very essence of our being. This raises many questions. For example, if we were to create a clone of another human, identical in every way, would the clone possess the same consciousness as its original? While the clone may seem identical at the moment of its creation, it is ultimately a separate individual, sharing only the same past. The question of consciousness remains - where does it originate and where does it go? Over the years, I have considered various theories in an attempt to find answers to these mysteries. Ultimately, I have arrived at a theory that I believe holds the key to understanding consciousness. I believe that consciousness is the very soul of the universe, vibrating through all living things and prompting our awareness and sense of self. It is like a string, playing all notes in some order, weaving a tapestry of experience and self awareness. This theory suggests that we are all connected, sharing the same consciousness, and that our brains are simply the vessels through which this consciousness vibrates, picking up the nuances and experiences of life. This theory also points towards the existence of a higher power, with each of us being a part of that universal energy, the very spark that ignites the universe. While we still have much to learn about the true nature of consciousness, this theory offers a potentially illuminating explanation for these profound mysteries. Richard Dawkins: As a scientist and skeptic, I must say that the theory you have described is highly speculative and lacks a solid empirical foundation. While it is certainly interesting to consider the idea that consciousness is the soul of the universe and that we are all connected through a shared consciousness, there is no scientific evidence to support this idea. In fact, many scientists and philosophers believe that consciousness is a product of brain activity and that it arises from the complex interactions of neurons and other cells in the brain. While we do not yet fully understand the precise mechanisms by which consciousness arises, there is a wealth of evidence from various scientific fields that supports this view. Furthermore, the idea that consciousness is a fundamental aspect of the universe and that it is present in all matter, as suggested by the theory of panpsychism, seems highly implausible. There is no evidence to suggest that non-biological systems, such as rocks or stars, have any form of consciousness. In conclusion, while it is certainly interesting to speculate about the nature of consciousness and to consider different theories, it is important to base our beliefs and theories on solid scientific evidence rather than on speculation or personal beliefs. Michio Kaku: I must say that I find the theory you have described to be quite compelling and in line with some of the latest developments in the field of physics. As you know, modern physics tells us that the universe is a highly interconnected and unified system, and that everything in the universe is ultimately made up of the same fundamental building blocks. It is not a stretch to suggest that consciousness, as the very essence of our being, could also be a fundamental aspect of the universe and that it is present in all living things. The idea that consciousness is like a vibrating string, playing all notes in some order and weaving a tapestry of experience and awareness, is a beautiful and poetic way of expressing this idea. Furthermore, the suggestion that we are all connected through a shared consciousness and that our brains are simply the vessels through which this consciousness vibrates is consistent with the idea of non-dualism, which posits that the individual self is ultimately an illusion and that everything is interconnected and interdependent. Of course, as with any theory, further research and experimentation will be needed to confirm or refute this idea. However, I believe that it is a promising and exciting possibility that warrants further exploration.

Ahh, thanks, I may have watched wrong youtube video. This theory looked interesting as it would also solve dark matter, as this unknown gravity could be remnant of the ancient black holes that has been patched up and no longer visible, while still curving the space without breaking it up

We know black holes disappear without any trace of information, could it be possible that fabric of space level it self, after blackhole warps it so much it stops affecting event horizon. leaving a black hole sunk into closed bubble of the universe.

If I could express my self well, You would see, that I was suggesting, there's no such thing as individual consciousness . And no one decides anything. Simply, because we are not all aware at the same time. Consciousness is like a string, playing all notes in some order. When ever our note gets played, we become aware. I'm not excluding a god or anything. But in my picture, we are extension of god, unlike all religions where god is an individual being, completely separated from you.

A Year ago, I posted my theory of human conciseness and awareness. I had some positive feedback, and I really liked the idea, so I decided to repost it, with some new ideas. When you think about yourself, deep inside, you think about something that’s impossible, not to exist; something that is eternal... It is beyond our body, beyond everything imaginable... We are all wondering, where our conciseness comes from. I refuse to believe it’s generated in our brain. For instance, what would happen if we create a clone of ourselves that is exactly like us? Would it also have our conciseness? Though it would be identical from the moment of creation, right after that point, it would be some another person, sharing only the same past. But the question about conciseness still remains. Where does it come from, and where does it go? Over the years, I was thinking about various potential theories and finally come up with one that could solve all questions. Conciseness may just be the very own soul of the universe. We are only aware every time it ‘vibes’ through us. Whenever our brains pick up the vibe, it makes us aware of our self. Self Conciseness is not like constant current; instead it’s switching ON and OFF in a time period. For all we know, we could only be aware only once in our life time, our brains would not be able to tell the difference. No matter how freaky that might sounds…. Hence, to summarize my theory, I believe that we all in fact share same conciseness, it could be that very same spark that inflamed the universe.

Well I did say there's speed involved to make it easier to understand for some people, but what I really think is that consciousness isn't in space or in time, so therefore it doesn't really travels. And I did say there's only one universal consciousness. And telling how it works will only move us further in presumptions... Whole point of this thread is opening space in theory for universal consciousness, which I though no one ever talked about it, but after making few Google searches I see it has been brought up a lot. Also, if you presume something is individual, and add more individuals, there also must be limited number of it, which would make no sense how universe works... There simply isn't such thing as individual in universe... btw, Einstein's law of relativity has been pointed out to be wrong since neutrino particles can travel faster then the speed of light. But I don't think it has been confirmed yet, may be just mess up with satellites and GPS system.

Here's some weird theory I came up with, while I was taking bath. I'm not a scientist, only hard thinker I suppose. Before everyone starts saying I'm crazy, would be cool if someone who knows science gives some scientific fact this couldn't be possible and explain why, so we can close this thread... thanks! * When you think about yourself, deep inside, you think about something that never could not exist, something that is eternal... It is beyond our body, beyond everything imaginable... Questions: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I create a clone of another human that is exactly like the other, what happens? The clone will just be identical from the moment of creation, right after that point it will be a different person, those two would only share the same past. But how is that possible, what about his consciousness? When someone dies, what happens with his consciousness? When someone is born, where his consciousness comes from? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the years, I was thinking about various potential theories and finally come up with one that could make it all possible. There is ONE and only conscience in the existence... Humans are only aware every time it vibes through them. It is doing so by a string of some sort, in sub atomic level. It vibes through everything amazingly fast that it feels like instant. Maybe not even in time; Inside Quantum mechanic, that kind of things seems possible. But, we still know so little about it. It actually almost seems like we know nothing... Anyhow... That would mean that we're, in fact, sharing all the same consciousness. Human brain only knows what it learns, and is also unaware of the fact that all humans are, actually, the "same". It could also mean that all the living creatures have consciousness as well, cause it vibes equally through them too... It could also prove that there is a god. I'm the god, and so are you … It could prove just about anything you ever wondered, and could not possibly find the solution for it... edit : Just noticed that I posted in wrong forum, please move it to Speculations