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  1. The bottom line for the scientists is that they have given man the ability to ruin the earth and destroy himself. 1,000s of years ago I could improve the land I am on. It is about the act of putting these chemicals together, to make life. That where the scienctists do not have any idea. Because this is a very presice thing. I watched the start of the 2nd one. Right at the first he shows animals in a progression. But he didn't show the transitional ones.Also if you look at that illustration you can see the planning that went in to those animals. God made one then adjusted the DNA and made another. In 'evolution' there would not be such a progression, you would find all sorts of mistakes and bad mutations. But they are not in the fossil record.
  2. we don't know exactly how long. But God animals to Adam to be named. When Eve was finally created, Adam said "at last". So from this Adam and God had dealing for quite awhile. Actually she did. Genesis 3:1-9 Amplified Bible (AMP) Genesis 3 1NOW THE serpent was more subtle and crafty than any living creature of the field which the Lord God had made. And he [satan] said to the woman, Can it really be that God has said, You shall not eat from every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat the fruit from the trees of the garden, 3Except the fruit from the tree which is in the middle of the garden. God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die. 4But the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die, 5For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing the difference between good and evil and blessing and calamity. 6And when the woman saw that the tree was good (suitable, pleasant) for food and that it was delightful to look at, and a tree to be desired in order to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she gave some also to her husband, and he ate. 7Then the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves apronlike girdles. 8And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9But the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, Where are you? So this tells us that Eve listened to Satan and ate of the tree. Both Eve and Satan, knew that God did not want man to eat of that tree. So Satan told the first lie. That is why he is called the father of the lie. Actually free will is free will. You can decide the run a red light if you want, but you will suffer the results.
  3. \ It is not really correct to consider it the OT and NT. It is one complete book. The Jews were awaiting Jesus, and when Jesus came the writings were about what happened at that time. The bible interprets itself. In that one scripture will say something and other scriptures will add to that. For example what you mentioned You need to have faith. But you also need to have faith with the works, . This explains, why the bible says faith without works is dead. So you need both. That is how the bible interprets itself. Satan is responsible for every sickness and death there ever was. It all goes back to him.
  4. The first video he basically that creationist are just followers of something, without checking things out. But he didn't mention that it takes many years of schooling and peer pressure, to believe in 'evolution'. For that average person never sees 'evolution' work. What we see is that 1 life comes from life 2 humans come from humans 3 there is design in the life we see. These 3 staements are facts. we see that every day. If there is something you think is correct, in any of the the video's bring it out to me and then we will discuss it. Other wise I don't know which parts of those video's you think is correct.
  5. Because animals look like other animals does not mean they came from one another. This is easy to explain. A creator would create an animal. . because he is going to create millions of animals some very similar to others, why would he start over from scratch every time? Because he uses intelligence and planing, he could make a life and change the DNA a little and create life that is similar to others. Scientists do this all the time in programing. For example you create DNA for material like teeth, then program the shape and placement of the teeth. In the next animal the material is the same, but the placement and shape maybe a little different. Can we mate with that find?
  6. The bible tells us allot of what is going on. That means who in ruling the earth. For example. It gives example from real life what happens when people do their own thing. You know learn from history. Jesus was a perfect example for us. So we see from that what God expects from us. The bible was written about the people of that time, but is for the people of the time of the end. Armageddon or Har–Ma‧ged′on) [from Heb., meaning “Mountain of Megiddo”] The term applies specifically to the condition, or situation, to which “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” are gathered in opposition to God and his Kingdom by Jesus Christ. In a number of versions it is rendered “Armageddon". The word 'mountain' in the bible figuratively means God's kingdom or rulership. ( government) There does not appear to have been a literal place called “Mountain of Megiddo,” either inside or outside the Promised Land, before or during the days of the apostle John, who recorded the vision. Hence, Har–Magedon draws its significance from the events associated with the ancient city of Megiddo. Megiddo was situated a few miles SE of Mount Carmel, overlooking and dominating the Plain of Esdraelon (Jezreel) and controlling major N-S and E-W trade and military routes. Joshua first conquered this Canaanite city. (Jos 12:7, 8, 21) Near this site Jabin’s army under command of Sisera was later destroyed. God there employed natural forces to assist the Israelite army under Barak. It was at Megiddo that King Ahaziah of Judah died after he was mortally wounded on orders of Jehu. (2Ki 9:27) There King Josiah of Judah was killed in an encounter with Pharaoh Nechoh. (2Ki 23:29, 30) Because of its commanding position, many other nations, according to secular history, warred around Megiddo. ‘Jews, Gentiles, Saracens, crusaders, Egyptians, Persians, Druses, Turks, and Arabs have all pitched their tents on the plain of Esdraelon.’ —Word Studies in the New Testament, by M. R. Vincent, 1957, Vol. II, p. 542. Har–Magedon.” (Re 16:16) In the Bible to′pos may refer to a literal location (Mt 14:13, 15, 35); or to one’s opportunity, or “chance” (Ac 25:16); or to a figurative realm, condition, or situation (Re 12:6, 14). In view of the context, it is to a “place” in the last-mentioned sense that earth’s combined military powers are marching Revelation 16:14 American Standard Version (ASV) 14 for they are spirits of demons, working signs; which go forth unto the kings of the whole world, to gather them together unto the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. So what this is saying is that all the kings ( governments) of the earth will be gathered together, to face God. That is what Armageddon is. God's war against the governments of this world and Satan. God's government will take over. There are many prophecies in the bible and they are, and all are shown to be fulled. Though there are some that yet have to take place. But the vast majority have been fulfilled. Genesis 2:15-17 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 15And the LORD God took the man and put him into the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat; 17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it. For in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die." 2 Peter 3:8 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing: that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Genesis 5:5 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died. So Adam died at 930 years with in the 1,000 year 'day' of God. Do you see how the bible interprets itself? Job 1:7-12 Amplified Bible (AMP) 7And the Lord said to Satan, From where did you come? Then Satan answered the Lord, From going to and fro on the earth and from walking up and down on it. 8And the Lord said to Satan, Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who [reverently] fears God and abstains from and shuns evil [because it is wrong]? 9Then Satan answered the Lord, Does Job [reverently] fear God for nothing? 10Have You not put a hedge about him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have conferred prosperity and happiness upon him in the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11But put forth Your hand now and touch all that he has, and he will curse You to Your face. 12And the Lord said to Satan (the adversary and the accuser), Behold, all that he has is in your power, only upon the man himself put not forth your hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord. It wasn't God that harmed Job it was Satan. God only told Satan not to kill him. Job lost everything, but that was by Satan's hand, not Gods. God has given man about 6,000 years to go their own way. And it definitely has ended up badly. If God does not step in man will end up destroying himself. That is just as the bible says. That prophecy is correct. Ecclesiastes 8:9 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 9All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein a man ruleth over another to his own hurt. This is true.
  7. Actually the bible is written so that there is only one interpretation. It interprets itself. I know I missed some things you wrote I will answer those, soon as get caught up.
  8. It is one thing to find a fossil and say it comes from a certain animal. It is another to say how it came about. One is science the other is interpretation. There are no transitional fossils. They would be the ones where are the parts would be development. ( partially formed, not in the right places, they would be horrendous looking life) The bible and science are in harmony. It is only the scientists, you have to be careful of. I'm not saying the science is wrong, but the interpretation of the scientists that support non creation and 'evolution' are wrong. They have no evidence that their theories have any credability. It is not scientific.
  9. It is not only the governments, it is financial, religious, the philosophy, and entertainment of the world. Ephesians 2:2 (GOD’S WORD Translation) Ephesians 2:2GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) 2You followed the ways of this present world and its spiritual ruler. This ruler continues to work in people who refuse to obey God. Ephesians 2:2 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 2wherein in times past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 2And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God Here are just 2 scriptures. When the bible says prince of the power of the air, the prince is Satan, and it is talking about the atmosphere of this Satanic world. It pervades everything in this world. governments, religions, thinking, entertainment, financial, etc etc. So what you see today and in the past is not God's way at all. But is Satan's and man's way. Does this not make sense when you look at the world? You can't blame God for this system, it is man's choice and Satan as a ruler.
  10. Yes that's true the scientists have done allot of work in this. And found out a lot of information. But they interpret the science found just like others do. it's not the science found it is the interpretation. They are reading into something with out the evidence to back it up. it's also not that the scientists need evry detail they need something to support their interpretations. That is what they lack. The jumped on the Darwin band wagon, and have been going down the wrong road ever since. As for the humans, there are no almost humans and there never was. An ape to a human is a huge leap. Not little steps. And if there were any almost humans, they would have been made slaves by us, used in hard labor. It would the opposite of the Planet of the Apes. That they are all human. There are no almost humans, or humans that were human but are no longer. There is breeding, natural selection, adaptation, and mutations. This gives variety in humans, but they are still human. This is the evidence we have. That goes for animals also. If you combine this with the start to life, you see that the scientists, have no evidence for either the start to life or 'evolution'. So the justification of believing in God comes from the science as well, as the bible, and history.
  11. Well this is the point, where is the evidence of that? If small little changes eventually make new animals, where are all the almost humans? And where are all the almost humans that are no longer human? There should be many of these around? This is only an idea, without evidence. The evidence we do see, is dogs come from dogs ( though there is a variety of dogs) Humans come from humans. We have never seen life come that from non life. We understand creation, though , we see that man can create things using the materials of the earth and making something from that. (which design) Even if scientists make life in a lab, that will be creation. Which supports only creation. The creation account doesn't say everything fell out of the sky. It says they were created with intelligence and design. So much so that even after many years of research scientists still can not do it. The scientists say, life slowly came from the ground without any creation involved. That is like me saying, a Harley should just appear one day in my driveway. After all it's been a billion years. Man has used the earth to build Harley's, but can't make a man. Harley's must be easier to make. So what makes more sense to you that the Harley was created or just happened? Same with a loaf of bread. So the scientists should at least, look to the evidence we have.
  12. OK I understand the point of view that some come from. They don't understand why would anyone serve a God that lets these things happen in the world today. There are answers, but most people put up a big wall so that they don't get the answers. And if they do , many will not accept it anyway. I don't look at it as confrontational, more as frustrations, and they are kind of mad about it. I just answer the questions or statements, with what I know to be true. They can accept what I say or not. That is the choice all of us have.
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