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Your math has been falsified? I beg your pardon? This is very bold you! Especially in a public forum....
If it has been falsified, then why not sue me then?????? If you ever get a chance to read what I just explained to mooeypoo another staff here, then I am sure I will receive an apology from you on behalf of your accusations towards me.
If I do not, then I will leave and take my story to another forum..-----> how about that!
You see this is why "humans" never advance to higher levels, its because of your ego! and this is why "your" world is what it is today, no math, science, nor intrigals, pure empirical observationb of your world!
!Moderator Note
Numerology is not accepted science. It has no useful predictive power and borders on superstition.
You started this thread to find someone who would verify your math for publication and I think the answer is clear. Your math has been falsified and no one is interested in putting their name on your paper. I'll leave this thread open until Wednesday, then it will be closed.
The Light Barrier,
It's OK to play with numbers to come up with something of value. Instead of calling it numerology, an occult word, maybe instead you should call it algorithms (a type of trial and error math). But the most important thing that you need to explain is why your constant(s) has any value in the first place. This you have not done to my understanding. Even if you think this constant has something to do with gravity, you need to explain how this constant should be applied? or how a constant can produce an equation? or why two sets of GR equations are better than one?
The history of the estimation of Pi goes back thousands of years. The first estimates probably go back to the earliest circular constructions at the times of the first civilizations of Mesopotamian, Egypt, and the early Chinese, etc. The first known recordings of such estimations date back about 3,000 years. The first quite accurate known estimate of Pi was done by Archemedes about 240 BC. Using his method he seemingly could have made his estimate as accurate as he wanted. With today's computers there would seem to be no limit to the accuracy of pi if greater accuracy were needed somehow.
http://physics.weber...chimedes/pi.htm
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THANKS mooeypoo
And as a shameless promotion to an SFN user's blog (in SFN blogs, incidentally) that is completely on-point, and, I suspect, was written as a result of this thread (or partially at least), this is an excellent account of why numerology is not science.
Regardless of where this thread is ending up, this is a relevant and good read.
And as a shameless promotion to an SFN user's blog (in SFN blogs, incidentally) that is completely on-point, and, I suspect, was written as a result of this thread (or partially at least), this is an excellent account of why numerology is not science.
Regardless of where this thread is ending up, this is a relevant and good read.
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Good someone whom thinks! Yes this is exactly what I am saying pi ratio is not the circumference to a diameter it represents the "radians" of the number you multiply this with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a super pseudo vector!!!!!!!!Now I am talking too much...
For instance 2x + delta x / delta x = some derivative right? What really is going to boggle your mind is this.... The co-secant line and secant line are this 2x deal, their position vectors are what ever their values are on the y and x axis in relation to the "slope."
When divided by delta x, you thus take the derivative from these two, secant and co secant lines put together. When divided by delta x you thus then are using a different method for pi ratio. THUS! [co-secant+secant] = vector = magnitude , velocity or etc! It was already there to begin with!
Look, the same works with my number accept I take the derivative of pi ratio itself and end up with the negative of pi ratio, here it is found in the exponent of 14. The number 8 here is an arbitrary number " I pulled out of my hat.
3.14*8 = 25.12
Same method only now we replace 3.14 with my number of: 94277083333321
94277083333321*8 = 754216666666568
25.12/754216666666568 = 3.33060791549775e-14<--------THERE IS 3. 14. Thus pi ratio is the number 3 to the 14th power!
Notice in my number of 94277083333321, there is no tenths place, making this a "free number." But of coarse its cloaked for now. Again the regular pi ratio is a number 3 to the 14th power, it is compleatly backwards!
Mine is not, but I still need help understanding what it is in relation to the main stream physics world. Hmmmmmm....
Notice the triples of 333? Could Max Planck known all this too?? Let us use some numerology now to see if this could be the case shall we: PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE 'YEAR' 1.986!
6.626e-33 / 3.33 = 1.98978978978979e-33
1989 / 6.626e-33 = 3.00181104738907
1 / 3.00181104738907 = 0.33313222724987
6.626e-33*299.792458 = 1.986424826708
1.989-1.986 = 0.003
1 / 0.003 = 333.3333333333333
1986-1989 = -3
Even works like this too:
6.626e-33 / 3e14 = 2.20866666666667e-47
33-47 = -14
But of coarse let us remember that numerology has no merit in main stream science.....HEY! 1986 was the Southern Summer Solstice Position Of Uranus! Look Here! :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus
Winter solstice1902, 1986 Summer solstice
Are you saying you don't believe that pi is a ratio between the circumference and diameter of a circle? That was explained, you can test it on any circle you like and it will always come out the same. So, since that was given to you, the ball is in your court to explain where your number came from. No one will 'steal your math', science isn't exactly a place you can steal ideas expect to make loads of money and become famous. If someone steals your idea and it's dead wrong they wasted a lot of time and effort. Since the majority of amateur ideas are wrong, not saying it's bad to come up with ideas, the odds of theft being any more than loss isn't worth any thief's time. If someone were to try, it would be fairly easy to resolve.
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My ratio represents the opposite of pi ratio.
The only thing I can say is treat the number I found as if it were pi ratio. Until I get an article that will "show the math" then I will disclose this information as per previously advised from other " sources" please don't ask. The ball is in your court, if you would like to see how I found this then help me get this out in a "published article and get credit as the person whom will re-define the math for me, into the standard "traditional mainstream ways."
I learn from history here. If you would not like to, then I respect that. Thank You For Your Time, WOW! I feel somewhat honered really I do.
I know the field of entertainment and fame trust me, been there done that. Can't get back into this loop again, if I had my math stolen then this would be three strikes against my produced music that "too" was stolen. I just cannot bare anymore losses...sorry..Plus I want to enjoy life too
I'm the only one taking the time to answer, I'm not the only one looking.
Regardless, the point is the same. OUT OF THE RULES OF THE FORUM you should follow the post I posted. It's not just about me reading your post. I was trying to be polite about it.
Well, this is really up to you. I'm not going to waste my time insisting you help your own idea. I pointed out the problems, it's up to you if you want to fix them or explain yourself better. You insist on showing a number without telling us what the origin of that number is -- that won't work, and it's not just "me" who's "saying" "it".
Capital letters won't help you either.
You were asked to answer some questions, and you ignore them. We're here to follow reality and physics and mathematical evidence.
The original Pi ratio was discovered with proper math. I think you have some reading to do, it wasn't just a number that mathematicians plucked out of nowhere and then insisted it's useful. The fact you don't KNOW where it came from doesn't mean it was an invention out of thin air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
Pi is the ratio between ANY circle's circumference to its diameter. That's the ratio pi represents. It's not just "a ratio" we invented to make people happy and use in mathematical symbols. It has a meaning, a clear meaning.
What does your ratio represent? Ratio between what to what? You can't just invent a number, call it a ratio, and insist it's useful and then be surprised we are skeptical.
You didn't tell us positions OF WHAT.
This is getting tedious and ridiculous. I shouldn't be wasting my time convincing you to be clear.
We told you from the start that we need to examine the theory to see if it's valid - and I told you also the difference between scientific validation and "art" --- the idea of "hiding the facts" or "masking things" is BUNK in science. You show it to the world so we can REPLICATE what you do. Only by letting us replicate it can we be sure you're correct.
That's how science works.
It's up to you if you want to do science or insist you hold the gold key to the universe but hide from view. I can't check or test something I have no access to, and no one else can either. The reason I'm the one answering you is because there aren't many physicists who will take the time to take a look at what you're saying when it's clear you're hiding things and not really cooperating.
It's simply a waste of time. If you don't want to share it, don't. If you want us to help you, you have to answer the questions. It's really that simple.
It was an example of LOGIC, whic clearly you missed. It seems you need to read a bit about that too.
Guess what? Science is not about emotions or ego or intuition, it's about properly describing reality, and the way we test these are by analytical examination, by evidence, by experimentation.
You seem to insist to go by science but reject the method by which science works. With the risk of being yelled at for involving ethically-conscious food items, I will remind you that you cannot eat the cake and leave it whole. You either want to do science --- and then you must follow the rules --- or you want to do it your way, in which case forget about making this a valid scientific theory.
And no, it doesn't matter which topping.
Good luck.
~mooey
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Please go over the "You have a theory" thread. I am quoting it for your reference here. You REALLY have to follow these guidelines, or we're not going to go anywhere with this:
Whose we're????
Its been only " you " looking at this.
My intuition suggest that this may not be the right area to further disclose anymore information, because " as you can already see", I pull numbers out of nowhere....remember? So why should it make any difference to you as how I found this pi twin??????
Also if Albert Einstein did not get this I doubt you would too. Remember ""you"" said you hate quantum mechanics and this is "space time."
Where I got the position vectors from???? ARE YOU OK?? Seriously???
Here it is for the 4th time now!
8*3.14* [ G= 9.8 m/s squared]3.04763462485999e-8
To this:
8*94277083333321*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] /8077608713.062491 = 915038.5461701907
The Coordinates of the twins!
Twin #1 [X, 3.04763462485999, Y, 3.04763462485999,Z, 3.04763462485999]
Twin #2 [X, 94277083333321, Y, 94277083333321,Z, 94277083333321]
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE ORIGINAL PI RATIO CAME FROM???
WHY DOES NOT ANYONE ASK ABOUT THAT?
WHY DO THEY USE IT AND NEVER QUESTION ITS ORIGINS????? Oh, I forget, it just works.
For what it is worth:
The point of interest is the x y z positions and the positions only, and still you have not even tested it nor anything else.
You just want to know where I got my number from this is why I cloaked it.
Also the example of the animals?????? Animals,, also have souls, where did these souls come from? do you know????
Stop being so dogmatic here. I am sure "others" may see what you do not.
But of coarse this is in the speculations, and out of my control, but my math is not! And you do not control this, so HA!!!!!!!!
WAYY-------------->Too anylitical "almost much suffocation here!"
So you picked a number out of your hat and called it "pi ratio twin", and now you plug it in and find weird relations you call "twin"...?
Where is this number coming from? Obviously if you replace Pi in that equation you will get a different answer.
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Position vectors are vectors, and coordinates are coordinates. You're mixing the two up in a way that makes no sense. You have to show where these "positions" came from, so far it seems like they're random. If you don't explain what those numbers are and why you use them, the entire thing is meaningless.
You put a number YOU call 'twin' into an equation to show that twin exists. That's circular logic.
Think about this case: I want to show that unicorns exists, so I state that since unicorns are animals and animals exists, therefore unicorns exist.
I'm sure you'll agree that the above sentence is meaningless; in order to prove the existence of unicorns I assumed the existence of unicorns.
You're doing the same thing with your numbers. In your proof for the existence of a "twin", you're assuming the existence of a twin. That does not follow, it's illogical and makes no sense, not in sentence-form or in mathematics or in physics.
You have to tell us where these numbers came from. Are these observed? Did you find them through an independent equation WITHOUT assuming the existence of "twin"? What are they?
We cannot go on without an answer to where the number came from.
If you don't have that answer, then your theory is no different than my unicorn statement.
Please go over the "You have a theory" thread. I am quoting it for your reference here. You REALLY have to follow these guidelines, or we're not going to go anywhere with this:
Good luck. ~mooey
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I GOT A GREAT SOLUTION HERE. Yes I know my method of explanation is quite (reverse) let us "for now" concentrate ""ONLY"" in this area. To add, they are not vectors, they are " positions only."
Now, within the formula of the fieldequation, I have replaced pi ratio In other words pi ratio’s“twin.” The following explains this:
Together in the Einstein’s FieldEquations of:
8*3.14*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] / 8077608713.062491 = 3.04763462485999e-8
To this:
8*94277083333321*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] / 8077608713.062491 = 915038.5461701907
These are the twins, These positions were used as 6 position all together within the x y z rotations only, they are not used in the methods of A->B, these are not vectors, they are "only positions for vectors static I assume." What Vectors?? I do not know. I only understand where these are located at. These are two twins, that form 1 all together.
Yeah, I'm completely confused, I'm trying to make sense of what you're writing there and it's very difficult. Numerology is, by definition, unscientific, as anything that is "occult". It has no scientific evidence and hence cannot be used to prove anything scientific.
If you mean for this theory to gain traction, I suggest you avoid using non science, and stick to physics and math.
Okay, pet peeve here,but an image cannot "reveal" anything since you are the one who made it. It can demonstrate, perhaps.
I don't see what it is it's demonstrating in this case. There are two arrows that seem to be "pointers" to the number and two ellipses... which ones are the "position vector" ? neither is the common way of actually drawing a position vector.
The meaning of the image isn't very clear, I'm not sure what it is you're saying with it. What are those ellipses? are they perpendicular? What do they represent?
What twin? What are you talking about? I see ellipses and a sphere. You really are being unclear here. You need to define the meaning of your terms.
You state "twins" as if it's the most obvious thing in the world and just proceeds on it without defining what, exactly, you mean by "twin".
.... What? This makes no sense.
Neither does this. Where did you get the coordinates? did you invent them? did you discover them? How? Are they observable? What, for all that's worth, are the "twins" ?
I've skipped everything because you keep refering to "TWIN" when twin is not explained, you don't say where you got your initial numbers (are these from observations? are these constants? which? where did you take the relations from? etc)
It's unclear wordsalad. You need to speak physics and math, not "words" with "quotation" "marks" and no definitions. Also, numerology is not going to help you get this into the scientific mainstream.
I don't mean to offend you, but you haven't talked theoretical mathematics or physics in this post or thread. You posted numbers that have no meaning and seem to find random connection between them. Either you explained yourself poorly, or you don't quite understand what the role of mathematics is within theoretical physics.
Either way, your conclusion does not follow the premise.
.... What? No. It doesn't explain singularities. No even close; it barely explains what a twin is.
Requires evidence and proof which you did not supply. Also, "The God Particle" is a fun dandy pop-media name given every time scientists try to find the "next order" of particles, it seems. Which particle are you talking about?
Sorry, but you didn't. Try again please, and this time explain what twins are before you state they exist, where you got your numbers from, etc.
Also, take into account that any and all physical and mathematical theories must (I cannot emphasize this enough) MUST be possible to repeat and replicate results. That means that you HAVE to tell us how you found these numbers so someone else can observe the same values, follow your method and confirm your result. Otherwise the theory is bunk by definition.
I think you should go over this thread regarding what constitutes a proper scientific theory ("So, You've Got a New Theory..."), and try explaining your idea again, this time with a bit less flair and a bit more concrete data.
I GOT A GREAT SOLUTION HERE. Yes I know my method of explanation is quite (reverse) let us "for now" concentrate ""ONLY"" in this area. To add, they are not vectors, they are " positions only."
Now, within the formula of the fieldequation, I have replaced pi ratio In other words pi ratio’s“twin.” The following explains this:
Together in the Einstein’s FieldEquations of:
8*3.14*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] / 8077608713.062491 = 3.04763462485999e-8
To this:
8*94277083333321*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] / 8077608713.062491 = 915038.5461701907
These are the twins, These positions were used as 6 position all together within the x y z rotations only, they are not used in the methods of A->B, these are not vectors, they are "only positions for vectors static I assume." What Vectors?? I do not know. I only understand where these are located at. These are two twins, that form 1 all together. And when unified they form a sphere it the image I have here. Both ellipses form the north, south, east and west poles respectively.
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seems like you have "much knowledge in this great!" I recommended you view my model and explanation I placed up here earlier, the model image links to a blog, NUMEROLOGY is used with a combo of theoretical math.... thanks! Hope to speak soon!
The Light Barrier,
Space-time geometry according to the standard model would be Einstein's equations of General Relativity as it relates to gravity, also Einstein's cosmological equations as they relate to gravitational operations of the universe. "Einstein's field equations" is a synonym for his cosmological equations. The geometry involved is Riemann geometry which is non-linear three dimensional geometry, and Einstein added a forth dimension of time to it.
One assertion of it is that matter warps the space surrounding it. The application of each would need to involve gravity for the equations to have meaning which I expect has something to do with your "gravity twin" proposal?
numerology n. The study of the occult meanings of numbers and their supposed influence on human life.
Is this the meaning of numerology that you are using? If not, give your definition of it or use a different word and explain that.
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OK HERE IT IS.
The following information has been previously recorded on a radio show and the following unit of 94277083333321 is notarized and copyrighted. Your Time Is Much Appreciated!!!!!!!
The model image positions.
http://gravityhasatwin.blogspot.com/2011/10/gravity-has-twin.html
The following image reveals the vector positioning of the units of measure I have found in relation to Einstein’s Field Equations or EFE. The arrows in red are where I believe the twins of gravity locate at. ALSO!!!!!!!!!! The vector position in the image model, are used as x y z “rotational axis only” in relation to torque speeds for both – and + directions for the twins.
Also!!!!!!!! The vector positions are 3 for twin 1 and 3 for twin 2. Making these 6 altogether!!!!! Or a 180 *2 = 360 Full Sphere Dome!
This part is “very crucial!” In the number of 3.04763462485999e-8 the exponent of -8 cancels out, due to its twin’s involvement “now.”
In other words this is the constructive and destructive interference model in quantum atom theory. When positioning the vectors as such, the later model thus is constructed. Most notably I used a 3d program in where I used “flat disc” polygons! Sorry, secant lines and curves just don’t do it for me anymore…..
The Coordinates of the twins!
Twin #1 [X, 3.04763462485999, Y, 3.04763462485999, Z, 3.04763462485999]
Twin #2 [X, 94277083333321, Y, 94277083333321, Z, 94277083333321]
Now, within the formula of the field equation, I have replaced pi ratio with its “twin.” In other words pi ratio’s “twin.” The following explains this:
Together in the Einstein’s Field Equations of:
8*3.14* [ G= 9.8 m/s squared] 3.04763462485999e-8
To this:
8*94277083333321*[G= 9.8 m/s squared] / 8077608713.062491 = 915038.5461701907
These are the twins!
This number 94277083333321 is a “cloaked” version of the absolute decimal form of three things.
1. the speed of light
2. infinity
3. pi ratio
All of these three “unify” all together as 1 and – 1.
The reason for this cloak is for further private professional use under written non disclosed agreement by the selected individuals.
Moving along.
What makes the number of 94277083333321 so important is because it is also = to 0.000000011 in angular seconds. And the following reveals this connection:
360*0.000000011 = 0.00000396
log(0.00000396) = -5.40230481407449
1/10e5 = 0.000001
Also the number of 94277083333321 is = to 8.833077969e-15 of angular revolution. And the following reveals this connection with the 2x method of deferential derivatives.
360 / 8.833077969e-15 = 40755895200227230
Log (40755895200227230) = 16.61019043682455 -- note the exponent is a 2*8 = 16 or 2 x. And the following is a 16-17 = 1 in a exponent form “””contained within the precession of base ten.”””
1/10e16 = 1e-17
When the number of 94277083333321 is used as the original pi ratio we see the following connection with its twin.
NOTE! 3.69 is an “””arbitrary number””” used for this example.
94277083333321*3.69 = 347882437499954.5
3.14*3.69 = 11.5866
11.5866 / 347882437499954.5 = 3.33060791549775e-14 ---------You see this??? This is the original pi ratio! However do note that the “original pi ratio’s” numbers of interest is only 3.14, thus this is 3 to the power of 14 with a radix precession base of 10 “in between the 3 and 14! It is rather yet known as the radix dot or [.]
Making this = to 3.14. All other numbers within the “original pi ratio” itself are non valued numbers, supposedly.
As you can see for yourself with the example above the number of 94277083333321 represents all these arbitrary numbers in the “original pi ratio” of 3.1415926535897932384626433832795…
These are the twins doing their thing! Like the star constellation of Gemini at 360 / 2 = 180 degrees! Making this system unique and collective metaphors associated with the number 13!
Previously I had introduced this find:
E= t = the following:
299.792458/144.1994472645505 = 2.07901253220476 m /s sqrd
144.1994472645505/299.792458 = 0.48099758154873 m /s sqrd
log(2.07901253220476) = 0.3178571072492 m /s sqrd
1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854 = PI RATIO! m /s sqrd
You can now see the same process and relation as there is also an infant number of pi ratios “original numbers as well!”
And they all work the same, dis-cluding the number of: 94277083333321
Conclusion:
Within the limits of my theoretical mathematics, this is strong evidence that support this claim of gravity’s twin in relation to Einstein’s Field Equations, and more that I have found within normal physics itself. Yes there is numerology involved in this coupled with the theoretical math, a science which is based on empirical observation.
Coupled with both these “ordained orders” of construction twin like patterns of such, they form a hyperdemensional cube which could now explain singularities, but I am not too sure of that due to my un-accessibility to the science world up until now “I hope.”
What are singularities? They are: The paths of light and falling particles where they come to an abrupt end, and geometry becomes ill-defined. As per wikipidia. I am a big believer of this! This can also be a connection to Dark Matter and the god particle coupled the Theory of Everything.
I do hope I have explained this to a degree of understanding, and although this may sound a bit confusing to “some” I rest assure when understood for what it is with an open mind your methods of research may now be “more clearer” to you. Especially those darn secant lines that don’t really tell you anything.
Thanks To All!
Singularities aren't "walls" in outer space, nor are they an area of space that comes to an "end"... and quantum mechanics might be crazy, but my point was that it's still no less real. Even after three semesters of hating it, I still respect it.
In any case, you really need to tell us what this is about before we can advise on the actual science, so I'll wait until you have something more formulates and we'll take it from there.
~mooey
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LOL, thanks I read it all, and yes you are every correct "and" to the "point" Need I Say....
I will need to formulate a "FULL" MODEL For you guys, and will place this up ASAP here. However the model ""images""" I will need to place these " photos" on a blog site to show you the "position vectors" for the twins of pi ratio in relation to space time. Unless I can place them "here" by any chance, then I will do so as well with a url address in standard ways. And yes, quantum mechanics is crazy! But never underestimate the power behind it....It goes much further believe me. In the mean time, look up singularities, they are known to be " walls" in outer space or areas of space that come to an end.... Yes I know, do not even comment
I will be here soon again, thank you so much for your time!"News" or peer reviewed? There's a difference. A big one.
Actually, you're comparing two completely different fields. In music and arts "public confirmation" counts a lot. In science it counts for nothing; a paper can be disliked -- but if there's evidence and the math and physics are consistent and hold to scrutiny, public "confirmation" doesn't matter. Nature doesn't care if we like its rules or not.
For that matter, I don't think you'll find many undergraduate physics students who "like" quantum mechanics. It's mind boggling, confusing, anti intuitive and full of weird math. And yet the fact it's annoying and anti intuitive doesn't mean it's not describing reality quite well.
If a theory stands for scientific scrutiny, it holds. That's what peer review is about.
Yeah, again, you're comparing different subjects here. This is how science works: You submit a paper, people try to tear it apart and scrutinize the living hell out of it. If they succeed, it means the theory wasn't too strong. If they fail, it means the theory is sound, and proceeds to gain acceptance.
About this 'twins'... you.. will have to explain a little better. Pi and 180 degrees are obviously related, but what are you talking about the "twins" at 360 degrees? you mean apart? which twins? you're not being clear.
I'm not quite sure what to say about the first paragraph in this quote, but there are quite a lot of Physics, Math and Chemistry PhD and Masters here that can review and help. I don't think the level of math here should worry you, or the level of physics. What you should probably take care for is staying focused and explaining what you mean. The above statement ("twins" and 360) is really not very clear what you're talkinga bout,and we might have problems helping you if we're not sure what you mean.
~mooey
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"they" are the people from news paper publication. They have stated due to the issues of the scientific field's chronological truths, they wouldn't want to embarrass "themselves" if this was not a "legitimate find." I found this odd, but other publications have told me also as well.
I am also a well known music producer with news paper article credits and very well respected so I know what public confirmation is all about trust me, it is a pain! Is there any method to discuss this in a closed setting with the staff only? Do you have a place here to speak about my finds in where only "the staff have access", at-least for now?
I am being very "wise" with this, the music business has taught me much, and I do not want any issues with "drama" jealousy or etc if this proves to be what I know it is. I am sooooo excited!!!!!!!! In short also, pi ratio is this twin! It is found in the star constellation of Gemini the "twins" at 360 degrees / 2 = 180 degrees! Who would have known!!!!!!!
I want to live a peaceably life and not cause envy in this field as I have in the music fields. I am sure you know what I mean, The challenges in today's world in regards to fame is very ill fashioned. Thank You All, I have read your comments, and it seems that you "may" be the people I need. I hope this to be true... HENCE: Review should be done by multiple people, yes I agree.
---------->>>>>OH! I almost forgot, What type of knowledge do you all have in the fields of "Space Time Geometry???" I really need to know please....THANKS!
Review shouold be done by multiple people. Unless you just want to test your mathematical model on an expert for feasibility, you should show your model and have lots of people try to falsify it. If it stands up, even more people will be interested.
Who are "they"?
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Hello, I have found something remarkable which explains the unification of mass acceleration and energy. The confusion behind this is because gravity I have found has a twin! The relation in philosophy is the Yin and Yang, Negative And Positive, Good And Bad etc...
I am looking for someone whom I can "show" through theoretical mathimatics that this relation holds true. As I am about to go "public" with my find, they have told me that I need "physical" legitimacy by a "certified individual" within this category and subject. The selected person will get credit for this and shall benift from this as well. If you are interested to see this and test this in your field please let me know. I assure you, you will be quite amazed.
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i always thought that the square root of -1 was 3600.......but i "may" be wrong....
Then ... what's the square root of -1?
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yes! this is exactly what I wanted you to notice, it is this error. And in this we get the famous round off errors in computers. This is why my findings are looked at as pulling numbers out of no where where in fact I am manipulating them to satisfy the logic behind infinity and the loops of 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Any and every log style always is used again and again within a base ten numeral matrix. It is like a constant we use somehow. The ponder to your question of: I am typing this on one computer. Not an infinite number of computers. Clearly 1 does not equal infinity.
This is how I look at this, although you are typing on 1 computer, many people will assume to read what you are typing in this forum. So technically, what you are typing may converge to infinty depending on how many people are reading your 1 typed message...And hence in vertual paralleled times zones all over earth converged to a 0 = 24 on line service server.
I noticed the math mistake here... is that what you wanted me to notice?
Please take all the time you need. Because I need a very detailed explanation. I need to know why each and every number you've picked has meaning and where it comes from. Because I literally just typed some random numbers out.
Hey, while you are taking your time to answer that, go ahead and ponder this too: I am typing this on one computer. Not an infinite number of computers. Clearly 1 does not equal infinity.
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Ok before I explain the 0.5 thing I just wanted to show you something about the random numbers you chose for your find of: 1.21e-64 Here is my dissection of it which relates to e of 2.718:
1.21e-64 / 8.85185438153131e+134 = 1.36694521604938e-199
log(1.36694521604938e-199) = -198.8642488905852
1/10e198 = 10e-200<----------- you notice that? this is the famed n = 0.5 and in this we see where the "loop" in time takes place. This is in the bases of ten!
But it is more complex than that. Look here at another find of mine and please "look" at what is going on as apposed to just choosing random numbers here...OK?
8.1802469e-39/8.18024691358027e-39= 0.99999999833987 = Natural anti algorithm = 2.71828182394633 2.7182818284590452353602874713527
My mathematics in this has also calculated the Natural anti algorithm of e to the 9th integer of its natural sequential number 2.71828182
I am not using random numbers here, as this would have taken years to find in the 20 minutes I used to find it just now. My math is a very highly and advanced mathematics of my own invention. They are translation much like the Lorenz Transformations, but I use an infinite demension as a variable as apposed to 3 dimensions of cartesian vectors of x y z.
I will explain your request, but really wish I had more time in doing so. Time is a circle which completes something as in x distance or frequency wave. Now, if you think "out of the box" you will ask yourself, where "in" this circle of 360 degrees is the starting point and the ending point logically or where is the origin?
But, I still need help in this, as I believe my math proves everything is "truly" and really = 1. I really had issues with these finds and so many others until I was convinced of this and went public.
Now a simple explanation as my time is limited at the moment, but I shall respond with more technical explanations later. The answer is in Earths axil tilt. This is so because precession of the equinoxes and time on earth takes place at this location. Now when you notice a right triangle such as in trigonometry, you see that the slope or secant of this "of coarse" is always at an angle.Some never question why this is, they only care for their answer right?
However, it is this slope that is in relation to earth's axial tilt and one of my most studied areas. Everybody knows that it is the year 2012 in Australia as opposed to 2011 in or current "Northern American Region" and that Jesus Christ was born twice. This is so because of the Christmas holiday Celebrated twice a year. One in the Northern region and one in the Southern Region.
Proof: http://goaustralia.a...a/a/ausjune.htm
Looking at how 1 / 2 = 0.5 is an attempt to rectify this obscured way of 1. Thus all known mathematics on earth is inversed which explains why algebra functions much in this same fashion. When working with ratios which are infact fractions of x, we can see how this 1 / 2 = 0.5 belief can be misleading as n = 1. And when not fully comprehended while using e scales of ten, one confuses that this e scale is truly in relation to a 300 degree compleation of time verses a 360 degree """"cycled loop!"""
As per the speed of light and the changes in seasons, it all holds in a 2x relation with pi ratio, the speed of light and energy. As earlier mentioned, I shall prepare a better explanation on a later time as my time here is quite limited. Thanks! hope this helps for now!
challenge accepted.
2.71828182845904523536028747135 * 3.14159265358979323846264338328 = 8.5397342226735670654635508695465744950348885357651
erf(8.5397342226735670654635508695465744950348885357651) = 1.3971161324848120486438955428453916924159213372001*10^-33
1 / 10e32 = 100000000000000000000000000000000
1 / 100000000000000000000000000000000 = 0.000000000000000000000000000000001
0.000000000000000000000000000000001 * 11 = 0.000000000000000000000000000000011
0.000000000000000000000000000000011^2 = 1.21 e-64
Ummm, yay?
Again, seemingly randomly doing mathematical operations on some numbers......
Perhaps you'd like to actually EXPLAIN what your numbers are supposed to mean? With units? Otherwise, this is nothing more that someone with access to a decent calculator can 'discover' just by putting numbers in. Without any meaning attached to the numbers, they are just ... numbers. I am willing to read it and be open minded about it, but so far, I don't see anything that really has any meaning, nor any reason to think that infinity = 1.
It may be obvious to you, but the rest of us need some help.
What does this even mean? How exactly does 1/2 'loop' into 1? Please define your terms, clearly, explicitly, and in terms well-defined or accepted by mathematics, please.
I think what you said was great! It helped me on something look, I followed your order of 2*∞=∞, except I switched them:
1 / 2*3.14 / 0.5 = 3.14
1 / 3.14 = 0.31847133757962
1 / 0.31847133757962 = 3.13999999999998 round off = 3.14 WOW! THIS WAS GOOD!
It seems that the only value that infinity has "must be pi."
And frequency of coarse must be:
299.792458/ 3.13999999999998/0.5 = 190.95061019108402
4 / 190.95061019108402 = 0.02094782517844
log[10](0.02094782517844) = -1.67886105919081
1 / 10e1 = 0.01
0.01 / 3.13999999999998 = 0.0031847133758
log(0.0031847133758) = -2.49692964807269
1 / 10e2 = 0.001
Notice how the highlighted dark exponents in relation to 10 are forming the natural numbers in sequences of 1 2 3 4...
Seems like the number 4 is a divine number. Also looks like the bases of ten = 0 empty space rather known as infinity which has no more numbers! These must be the h constant then!
Now it make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is where infinite space switches in a "nullified zone" in relation to e scales and quantum physics! And this is in relation to pi ratio which thus loops this in relation to time and the speed of light hidden in the form of 0.5.
Rather yet known as fractions of time in descret values of energy = h.
Oh wait, NOW I see what your saying, your talking about that triangle where
2*4=8
8/2=4 8/4=2
But, I don't see how that works with infinity because infinity isn't a single number and there aren't some single things that you can multiply and divide to get infinity other than infinity. The only way you can do that is with infinity itself, so maybe like ∞/∞ can equal 1 in some cases, but lets look at that.
2*∞=∞
∞/2=∞
2/∞= forgot how that works, but probably ∞. Actually I think it's currently undefined or that we have no idea.
If two numbers multiply to make a product, then the product can be decided by 1 factor to make the other factor, but there's no way you can make two when you do 2*∞, and that's mostly because infinity isn't an actual number.
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Thanks for responding! Yes I am quite familiar with the h constant which holds discrete values of energy. But this does not relate to fractrional values especially in relation to infinity:Note the h constant here uses "angular" frequency in relation to an angle of four quads. Also please note! The following progression is in relation to: a square root of 100,000,000 "this is while taking your advice."
n = 10^4 = a square root of 100,000,000 = the following:
3.14*0.3178571072492 = 0.99807131676249
299.792458 / 0.99807131676249 = 300.3717800171401
6.626e-33 / 6.28 = w 1.05509554140127e-33
This checks to see if 1.05509554140127e-33 is = to 1---->1.05509554140127e-33 * 0.99807131676249 = 1.0530605963166e-33 it is.
This uses the famous 2x ------>4 * 300.3717800171401 = 1201.4871200685604
Now we use a log base e scale and confirm the relation of 10^4----->log [10](1201.4871200685604) = 3.07971911953182
1 / 10e3 = 0.0001
1 / 0.0001 = 10000
n = 10^4
I have absolutely no idea how or why you would choose such a contorted train of "logic" to arrive at a value of pi for the speed of light. If you think that pi has some special signifcance in the working of the cosmos, why don't you just assign that value to the speed of light and be done with it?
You would, of course, have to change our SI definition of the meter in order to accomodate your new definition. Instead of the meter being defined as "...the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second..." we could say that the meter is defined as "...the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/314 159 265 of a second...". This would require us to change all of our textbooks, astronomical calculations, speed limit laws (and signs), etc by a factor of ~1.04792251 (the new meter would be slightly longer than the old meter).
This seems like a lot of trouble to go to just to make a correction to what everyone already knows is just an arbitrary number we've given to the speed of light based on our previous arbitrary definition of the meter and our current arbitrary definition of the second.
If you're curious about the "natural" value of such things you might want to read up on Planck units. The Wikipedia article on this can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Planck_units
Chris
Thanks for responding, yes pi and the speed of light have a close relation to sine waves especially in quantized energy such as the reduced h constant of 6.626^-33/ 2pi. In this I have found that when pi ratio is used what we are really doing is translating empty space out into infinity from within the source as an inversion which still sustains within the speed of light in relation to time, expansion and mass or energy. There goes that secant and co-secant line!
However, I have also found that pi ratio is a physical constant connected to the universe abroad. The eerry thing is this. Since it is a physical constant this means that over a period in where precession changes in relation to time and earth's seasons, it would be logical to suggest that this physical constant of pi ratio also expands like the mass expansion of energy..... Although this is a theory in general it could explain the flaws of classical physics in relation to our advancements in today's nanotechnology.....But, I also think that our traditional number of pi ratio needs upgrading!
I think that just because something has the numbers "3, 1 and 4" in it doesn't all of a sudden mean it has anything to do with Pi. Pi is a very special and unique number. Although I wouldn't be surprised if light's speed had something to do with Pi because the properties of light mimic that of a sine wave which uses Pi radians to create cycles and phases and etc, so it's possible that the wave (or circular?) properties of light make light related to Pi.
Here is proof is right here: 16 / 0.11111111111111 = 144.00000000000145 notice again the 144 number in relation to 12?
log [10](144.00000000000145) = 2.15836249209525
1 / 2.15836249209525 = 0.46331420401456 = again 1 / 2 = 0.5 = n = a fraction.
4*0.0625 = 0.25
4*0.25 = 1
Scary!!!!!!!!!!!
NOTE: 16 IS A HEXADECIMAL COMPUTER BASE NUMBER...
But trust me this subject is way out of scope for this forum, unfortunetly you need to have studied this many many years...
Number. That was easy.
Where did this number come from?
Why not just use log(pi) = .497, which is even closer?
What is k here?
Actually, it makes it look even more like you are doing so. Again, the only way to dispute that you are "pulling numbers out of nowhere" is to show where you are getting your numbers.
And what significance does this have? Any number multiplied by its reciprocal will be 1.
So what does all this "proof" have anything to do with microprocessors?
=Uncool-
Here is proof is right here: 16 / 0.11111111111111 = 144.00000000000145 notice again the 144 number in relation to 12?
log [10](144.00000000000145) = 2.15836249209525
1 / 2.15836249209525 = 0.46331420401456 = again 1 / 2 = 0.5 = n = a fraction.
4*0.0625 = 0.25
4*0.25 = 1
Violla back to 1 again.
NOTE: 16 IS A HEXADECIMAL COMPUTER BASE NUMBER...
But trust me this subject is way out of scope for this forum, unfortunetly you need to have studied this many many years...
Number. That was easy.
Where did this number come from?
Why not just use log(pi) = .497, which is even closer?
What is k here?
Actually, it makes it look even more like you are doing so. Again, the only way to dispute that you are "pulling numbers out of nowhere" is to show where you are getting your numbers.
And what significance does this have? Any number multiplied by its reciprocal will be 1.
So what does all this "proof" have anything to do with microprocessors?
=Uncool-
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WOW! thanks for responding with respect and courtesy, as this further impels me to open more about my find. OK, this is what bothers me and it is in this:
n = 1 of 1 + 2 + 3 + . . . + n = ½n(n + 1).
However what = this 1/2 = 0.5 variable or number?
There has to be something that is = 0.5 only which is a fraction of time.
I have found this in relation to my c squared = pi ratio:
3.1415926535897932384626433832795 - [0.00431999784] = 3.13727265574979
log [10](3.13727265574979) = 0.4965522642323----> round off = 0.5
1 / 0.5 = 2
0.5 / 2 = 0.25
4*0.25 = 1 = k
Just to let you know, this find is notarized and copyrighted!
You can now see that I am not pulling numbers out of nowhere like some here have "accused me of as trolling or as appearing dumb = legal excuse for verbal abuse and offense, works very good with "spousal abuse." I have been studying this since I was a child. I have found that this is due to round off errors in bases of ten within microprocessors!
1 meter is about 39 inches, so that would be 3*13 but this again also holds relation to 12 as in 3*13 = 39 = 3+9 =12 or even 39 = sqrt of 6.24 +4 = 2pi
Like I said this is a giant jigsaw puzzle that I have been on for quite some time.
Also: 1 / 0.4965522642323 = 2.01388669840437
2.01388669840437*0.4965522642323 = 1
Again surly I am not just using random numbers here from those whom"accused me of as trolling or as appearing dumb = legal excuse for verbal abuse and offense"works very good with "spousal abuse."
LOL, I think this is going to be an interesting stay!
1 meter is about 39 inches, so that would be 3*13.
The meter was chosen to be a value that's related to pi. One of the propositions was to choose it so that a 1 meter pendulum would have a half-period of 1 second
[math]T= 2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}[/math]
The proposal was discarded because g varies dependent on your location, so it's a bad standard, but the chosen standard is very close to that value. Consequently, [math]\sqrt{g} = \pi[/math] to better than 0.5%
To find pi popping up in ratios in math, and especially in the SI system, is utterly unremarkable.
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yes in a sense you seem to understand, it is that n = a fraction thing , this is also used in the rules of mathematical Mathematical induction of :1 + 2 + 3 + . . . + n = ½n(n + 1)...here we really see that 1/2 = 0.5 which loops onto 1 again. I think it is this where my calculations are headed in.
I haven't really seen any harassment though, and also infinity isn't a number or even a variable, it's a term for the existence that is instantaneous a never ending counting of numbers so I don't see how it could equal 1 except if you divide infinity by infinity, and even then it depends on the context. Otherwise what it seems your trying to show is some kind of number theory or properties of numbers themselves and then determining logically what that means in reality related to light.
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I can't believe you actually asked that question, do you really think I have nothing else better to do than to speak to strangers on line and waste time with arbitrary numbers and calculations? I have been on this since the age of 5. My functions have a flow to them, they follow the rules of precession. Another example:
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 / 1313122.5390852564 = 0.00000239245962
log(0.00000239245962) = -5.6211553835236
1 / 10e5 = 0.000001
1 / 0.000001 = 1000000
1 / 1000000 = 0.000001
0.000001*12 = 0.000012
0.000012^2 = 1.44e-10
If there was a better reason for 12 *12 would this mean that there was an odd connection, or are all of the numbers just picked from thin air?
WELL BARIC, IF YOU ARE SO BAD LETS SEE YOU CREATE A FUNCTION LIKE THIS:
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 / 1313122.5390852564 = 0.00000239245962
log(0.00000239245962) = -5.6211553835236
1 / 10e5 = 0.000001
1 / 0.000001 = 1000000
1 / 1000000 = 0.000001
0.000001*12 = 0.000012
0.000012^2 = 1.44e-10
299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476
144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873
log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492
1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854= PI RATIO!
SURLY I AM NOT AS DUMB AS YOU THINK I AM
That right there was too obvious and gave away the troll. You did get a few bites, though, so grats on that.
And please don't bother denying it at this point. When you troll as a dummy on a science forum, you have to avoid looking too dumb.
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ARE YOU SURE?
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 / 1313122.5390852564 = 0.00000239245962
log(0.00000239245962) = -5.6211553835236
1 / 10e5 = 0.000001
1 / 0.000001 = 1000000
1 / 1000000 = 0.000001
0.000001*12 = 0.000012
0.000012^2 = 1.44e-10
My equations means that the speed of light is = E = t --->Energy = Time simple stuff, no need to be speculative here, I am only trying to help you all "learn" something new, already in about less then 24 hours I am being treated so un-welcomed by many. This does not really inspire me to continue in this forum and maybe I should go somewhere else. However, if you can do this too THEN LETS SEE!
I too can just multiply random numbers together. 4*5 = 20. yay! I don't think that I've proved any more or less than you have.
Perhaps you should actually tell us what your equations mean, and why you think that they prove anything about infinity? And include units on the equations, too.
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Ok, well here it is, let me hear what you all think...
Speed of light
0.00009252853642*299.792458= 0.02773935736849
log (0.02773935736849)= -1.55690360434967
1/10e-1 = 1
1/1 = 1
Frequencywave = 299.792458/1 = 299.792458
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The nth term doesn't even tend to 0.
This is a classic example of why you can't do naive term-by-term operations with infinite series and expect to reach a valid conclusion.
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HaHa! sticks and stones may brake my bones, but names will never hurt me! This is only an attempt to get off the subject here. No one can still disapprove of my find because it is in the math no mater how you look at it. Also, you tend to forget the relation between 1 meter, and this is 3*12 inches = 1 meter in relation to pi ratio, hence as delta x approaches zero, there goes your relation to 144! HAHAH! Thought you would have figured it out by now, but the mystery goes far greater than the ego can ever see. Dontcha wish "yo" -->teacha was smart like mine! FREE YOUR MIND AND STOP GETTING LOOPED IN THIS WORLD'S ILLUSIONS OF TIME......
That right there was too obvious and gave away the troll. You did get a few bites, though, so grats on that.
And please don't bother denying it at this point. When you troll as a dummy on a science forum, you have to avoid looking too dumb.
Yes thanks for this info and yes I do very much agree with all this. However, we still to this date use the e scales of base ten, which in turn ends up as a "round off error. Another "mystery" to unravel in today's mathematics.
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Close I think??? Ok..well your number of 14419944726 is still not equal to pi ratio. Here is what I used as per "your" number:
299.792458/14419944726 = 2.07901253227037e-8
14419944726/299.792458 = 48099758.15335555
log(2.07901253227037e-8) = -7.68214289273709
1/-7.68214289273709 = -0.13017201241407
1/0.13017201241407 = 7.68214289273684
Question, doe you number of: 1441994476 <-----have a tenths place?
Look at mi find here:
299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476
144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873
log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492
1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854
thats easy. you take the important numbers 2 (for yin and yang), 3 (for the trinity), and 11 (for continuation - ie after the 10 divine commandments)
1. 2 raised to the power of three multiplied by the primes between 2 and 11 inclusive [(2^3)*2*3*5*7*11] gives 18480
2. nestle this product between the magic numbers 2 and 11 yet again and we obtain 2(184840)11 = 218484011
3. multiply this by the numbers 2 3 and 11 and you get [2*3*11*218484011]= 14419944726
4. the next 5 is 2+3 and then you add this multiplied by 101 ( 11 split by divine nothingness) and you get 14199447265505.
simple really (if you neglect the fact that I missed a 4 out in the first calc - damn)
CdeS-G
The number 14419944726 still does not = pi ratio. Look here:
299.792458/14419944726 = 2.07901253227037e-8
14419944726/299.792458 = 48099758.15335555
log(2.07901253227037e-8) = -7.68214289273709
1/-7.68214289273709 = -0.13017201241407
What I have is this:
299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476
144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873
log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492
1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854= PI RATIO!
Does you find of:14419944726 have a tenths place?
thats easy. you take the important numbers 2 (for yin and yang), 3 (for the trinity), and 11 (for continuation - ie after the 10 divine commandments)
1. 2 raised to the power of three multiplied by the primes between 2 and 11 inclusive [(2^3)*2*3*5*7*11] gives 18480
2. nestle this product between the magic numbers 2 and 11 yet again and we obtain 2(184840)11 = 218484011
3. multiply this by the numbers 2 3 and 11 and you get [2*3*11*218484011]= 14419944726
4. the next 5 is 2+3 and then you add this multiplied by 101 ( 11 split by divine nothingness) and you get 14199447265505.
simple really (if you neglect the fact that I missed a 4 out in the first calc - damn)
CdeS-G
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Incredible! But if we are using arbitrary numbers out of no where, then these arbitrary numbers hold "true" form in the material world, ie velocity, weight, mass, circumference and etc. I agree with you! But we still have no idea where pi ratio came from bottom line. But this I ask, why does pi ratio work if it is empty space?? And what is its relation to time? Remember time is the speed of light and a frequency wave = the sine curve of a 360 completion. It is this which needs to be understood. The mystery is how these human arbitrary numbers of irrational selectivity still fall into the order of "natural numbers."
What baric was saying was that most of the numbers you have used are arbitrary values which were picked because they were a roughly convenient size for the humans who invented them.
There's nothing fundamental about dividing the circle into 360 units, or twelve hours in a day, or the length of a second compared to the length of a metre
Mashing these numbers together isn't going to be meaningful. At least any more meaningful than measuring the width and and weight of your refrigerator in furlongs and stone, and using those numbers as a source of universal insight.
Numerology? I think that is = monetary system.....
This appears to be numerology, and thus takes all the praise that that deserves.
Very true and the speed of light = 10^3km as per polarization in relation again to pi ratio of 1 frequency cycle in time.
One could pick units such that [math]c=\pi[/math]. I have never seen that done, but I suppose it could simplify a few equations here and there. Or it might just course more confusion
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Posted · Edited by The Light Barrier
Preaching ????? I thought that ""metaphysical realms or occultic subjects""" were not allowed here. Seems now you are breaking your own rules, but then again that's how "leader-ships in today's world seem to work lately."
Preaching to my knowledge stands for someone whom is speaking on the behalf of a higher celestial entitie's fantastic rules on humanity....Don't even try, you went there too! I have already admited that I need help understanding this, I did not pull those numbers out of nowhere, because obviously this thread has had the most replies in probably any other thread here....I may be confused on my finds, but I am not dumb and neither are any of you. I am onto to something incredible.
TEST , my number out on something, use it as a delta x, look at the results and tell me what you think about what you found. This is give and take here, I'm not going to do all the work!!!!!!!! DON'T BE SELFISH!!!!!!!!!