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So the cells divide at a certain speed each minute, and i know it is that speed that controls aging, so when we are born our cells are going really fast right and they always go slower and slower with age. Thats how our organs get tired and we die.. so imagine if we would come up with a way to to control the speed of which the cells divide, say its going at the speed X at age 24 and instead of progressing to the speed Y at the point we are 24 we do something that will affect the cell division so it will stay at speed X and that way we will be in the same physical condition until we die in a some sort of accident/disease/cancer... Am i right? So if i´m right then please tell me if it is known of course WHAT controls the speed of cell division, in advance we can start concluding about how we can start affecting that which controls it and therefore start researching on the matter and later find the solution, the ULTIMATE solution to the most horrific effect of aging, but remember i´m not talking about morality, reactions of society, cost of doing it to ones self and such..

And if i´m wrong about the part that the speed of cell division is the reason for aging then i will be really embarrassed cause i´m not 100% sure but i heard it somewhere.

And if neither makes eye contact, you will start avoiding eachother at the same time and in the same direction

lol if the other is looking down and im looking at him then i still win and ill just crash into him and it will go into chaos xD No.. not really, your always checking if there are people in front of you and when you look and you see the other one looking in your eyes then the games begin . If both avoid eye contact then they will both move. You cant expect the other to move if you avoid the eye contact..

And yea about that when you said that they will go in both direction. Thats a common problem. You all know when your both trying to get past the other one and you always seem to go in both direction it will become awkward like you´ll stay on the same spot trying to get past him/her and she always goes the same direction. Sometimes the other one will just move the other one the other direction by pressing his/her shoulder to the opposite direction but that mostly happens when the awkwardness and waste of time has reached the limit.. Its also kinda funny xD

Good point Severen, i´m going to expand this thread a bit, there is also a familiar matter that also happens in every day life. Its when your walking against other people. Its also a matter of who´s the more dominant since you mentioned that the first one to look away has less confidence than the person that holds the eye contact and doesnt look away. When your walking towards a person One of the persons must walk in the other direction so that the other can pass otherwise they would just crash into each other.. The person who would clear path for other one would be the one that´s "weaker" and in most cases it will be the shorter person.. I think its somehow connected to the eye contact, the one that will look away first will have to clear the path for the other one.. I tried it. I looked at the person that was in my way and he looked away first and he moved away. I tried this several times and it´s always like that.. quite interesting don´t you think?

Also, i think most of you are familiar with the situation when your aside another car in the middle of traffic and you look to the left or right and the driver in the other car looks back, its kinda funny for me actually, i keep looking and when he looks at me i look away and then i look back etc.. =)

When im in public places such as the bus, school cafeteria or other places when your around many people i always look down.. reason : Its difficult for me to look in other peoples eyes. And always when i look at someones face when he/her is looking in another direction he/her instantly looks back right into my eyes like he/her knows that im looking at her.. i dont get it, can someone explain why it happens? Even if he/her is 10-15 meters away he/her instantly senses that im looking at him/her :S

Doesn´t look very cool when you do this yourself lol

So yea that is all. tell me what you think about this. Cool? Boring? Old?

Id is just shortening for I would... -.-

Longer periods of time, like weeks, months years seem to go quicker as you get older. As a todler, a year seems like forever as it is 30 to 50% of your entire like. It still seems like a long time as an 18 to 20 year old as it is 5% of the entire time you have been alive. Before you know it you start thinking "where did those years go?!?" What the hell happened to 2009? it's nearly over... (it has been 2.6% of my life so far!). However, this is obviously differet to the stress induced perception of time slowing during a crisis.

I wish we could just stop time.. then we wouldn´t have to worry about a single thing... we would have all the time in the world. Literally... But what makes time go on? If we can find that out then we might be able to control the time..

This is incredible i thought i was being stupid posting this and was considering aborting it..

speed of time is always one second per second in the local frame.

 

i think you might want to look up a thread on why time appears to slow down when you're scared(can't remember the exact title and couldn't find it using the search function, if someone else knows its location then there's some rep points in it for you if if you find it and post the link).

 

basically he is asking if our brains processed data faster, would we percieve time as running slower.

Yes exactly.. Does that sound stupid? Or does it make sense?

What do you mean by seeing the things you see at the same time? You mean the same speed?

Speed of time. I mean the speed of time on earth.. Its always stable.

I was on my bus today going home from school when i was looking out the window then i figured "hmm, why do i see the things i see at the same time. Always?" then i figured that the time on earth was stable but what if our brain was 10x faster. Would we see everything around us 10x slower..? Definitely not.. I know this sounds stupid and its a very irrational thought but can someone explain to me how this is stupid?

I think that it's simply definition that all within one standard deviation (15-20, I think) of the average score (100) are considered being of average intelligence.

 

 

Well, I'm not sure to what extent it justifies making fun of people. Particularly if they are likely to be hurt. Also, I was not specifically asked about my opinion. But in case you are really interested, then here's a few points that in my opinion are worth critical consideration:

 

1) The only objective measure of your IQ is the test you did, giving 95 (I do not to consider tests offered on-line - but that has nothing to do with you). So while it may be possible that the test is flawed, you had a bad day or whatever, there is more reason to assume your IQ is around 95 (one objective reason, to be precise) than to assume your IQ is much higher than that (zero objective reasons). So logically ("logic" meaning without involvement of personal feelings, not as being based on some formal set of axioms) it seems more sensible to assume your IQ is 95.

 

2) IQ tests measure the ability to answer questions in an IQ test. Of course those tests do not exist for themselves but it is assumed that the skills required to perform well in IQ tests are relevant for other tasks, hopefully even some useful ones, too. I'm no expert on IQ tests but skills being tested do -as far as I know- include things like thinking in 3D (pretty objective criterion, I think), pattern recognition and logical grouping of words and objects. The reason you gave for believing you were more intelligent than the average is that you have a different, in your opinion more important, goal in life than the others. Well, your attitude towards life might be better than theirs - I tend to disagree, but that's just my personal view. But your goals in life are simply not what IQ tests measure so that statement is pretty meaningless, here. So it comes across that you have a very simplified if not naive view of what IQ is, somewhere along the lines of "high IQ = good", "low IQ = bad". That really doesn't make the self-evaluation of your IQ look very rigid.

 

3) There is no reason to assume that the average reader of your post, say Severian, has an IQ above the average. In fact, there is reason to assume that the average reader has an average IQ (surprise, huh?). So it could be considered somewhat offensive of you to come around and say "oh no, if I really was as stupid as you, then my life would be totally ruined. Please tell me this cannot be true. I don't want to be an alcoholic moron like you."

 

 

To answer your original question: I don't know exactly what your dreams are. And that they "include rational thinking and natural intelligence" is very unspecific - I assume that your dreams are also a bit unspecific. So just two rather broad comments:

 

- Intelligence might have an influence, say in Mathematics or Physics. But according to my experiences, the contributions from intelligence and from efficient serious work style tend to shift strongly towards the latter after school - in an ever-increasing manner. I also do not see why the skills tested in an IQ test should be the ones required or (most) beneficial for what you want to do later.

 

- At some point you'll get more important objective feedbacks than an IQ test. Grades in university exams, for example. If they are good then screw that IQ test score. Those exams measure more important and relevant skills. If they are worse than you'd think they should be you should not talk them down ("in last year's exam I would have scored much better"), though. Valuing objective measures about how reality is over personal feelings how reality should be is, in my opinion, a very important ingredient (with tendency to "absolutely required") in figuring out "unsolved mysteries of the universe", say in natural sciences.

Thanks for the hard work you put in responding to my post. Yes it was a bit dramatic of me to put it like this "unsolved mysteries of the universe" by that i mean of course solving/finding problems in physics and such, there are many things that we can´t understand and to progress we need to solve them.. And i give great interest in solving problems because i cant´t stand knowing that there is something that the human species can´t understand since we are the most intelligent beings known..

And about the IQ test. Then ill guess i´m just going to have to prove that they are flawed by ignoring the results and do better than a person with an IQ of 130-150 in school/work etc.. That´s the only way i can prove to my self and others that they are flawed... If i wont then they aren´t flawed. Easy as that.

Thanks dr.syntax

My memory is bad. Possible reasons?

Anyhow, since when do we mock people for what they are?

Well he most likely knew that i didn´t settle with the fact due to the strong words i used to describe my hate of my new IQ results and decided to correct me and tell me that i´m less than i thought and even making a joke out of it and therefore most likely trying anger me.. And i just can´t see the point of it.. Neither appreciate the "joke".

Anyway i just took another IQ test on the internet, with my own language and i got 124.. Reason : I was under no pressure. And i guess i´m just going to have to get used to think rationally while under pressure... I know my IQ isn´t 95. I´ve always scored 120-130 on tests which i wasn´t under any pressure and it has always been like this, i remember the math teacher watching me solve problems but i couldn´t concentrate on the problem i always concentrated on him watching me.. If IQ is measured with how rationally you can think while under pressure then i guess my IQ is 95 Period. If not then its somewhere between 120 and 130

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Anyone saying "I know i´m not average, im much more intelligent than the people around me, my goal in life is to figure out the unsolved mysteries of the universe", especially in a forum they are new to, deserves to be mocked.

 

Incidentally, why were you visiting a shrink? It seems we have multiple reasons for you not being average.

I´m sorry but can you explain to me why i deserve to be mocked for saying that? Thanks in advance.

I think space is kinda like on Scooby Doo when they are being chased by the creepy guy they met in the beginning that is actually the bad dude they are after that is trying to run everyone off so he can take the hidden gold money for himself, but during the chase the run thru a door, and come out thru the door acroos the hall, just to run back thru the same door again. Think of it as a continues loop, or if you are standing in front of door looking in a dark room, with the exact same door behind you. You then throw a ball into the door in front of you, and it hits you in back of the head. Either that, or I am in a drug induced Dr. Seuss nightmare.

that has to be the most original metaphor known to man..

Yea. I believed you. I was just telling you what i was told first and that´t not even the point. The point is that you were mocking me and i never did anything to deserve that mocking..

A score of 100 would be average. If you scored 95, then you are below average.

 

So don't worry, you aren't average after all!

The psychiatrist told me 90-100 is average and if you were trying to be offensive which i figure you were trying to be based on the sarcastic look on your post, you failed. Bitter man releasing the hate of how miserable your life is on some internet thread. How pathetic i don´t know if i should laugh at you or feel sorry for you. :/

Thanks all of you for inspiration. Its very difficult for me to deal with this new disadvantage of mine.

Hello. I took an IQ test a week ago an i will describe my experience.

First task was to memorize symbols that applied to numbers 1-9 and then you were supposed to write the symbols under a about 10 rows of random numbers and you had 2 minutes to fill everything up. I did good at that.

then there were tasks such as aligning cubes with 4 differend patterns on each side to the picture shown to me. That was time measured. And when im under pressure i cant concentrate and i couldn´t control my own hands, It was like i had Parkinson´s disease so i didn´t do well at that task.

then there were basic knowledge, aligning of storylines, puzzles, mathematics, memory of numbers and all kinds of stuff, i think you get the idea.

I thought i did OK but my final score was 95.. I just realized today that i´m "average". I know i´m not average, im much more intelligent than the people around me, my goal in life is to figure out the unsolved mysteries of the universe. Other peoples goals are finishing the school weekend and drink beer and smoke weed and maybe finish college and later live an ordinary family life.. I´m not saying that´s wrong i´m just saying that that´s the average person. Disprove me if i´m wrong. So here´s the final question. Does that score tell me that i cant pursue my dreams? Those dreams include rational thinking and natural intelligence which according to the score i don´t have. Today i actually thought about ending my life because i knew i couldn´t live the dream that my life revolves around reaching. Id rather die than being an average person.

By using always a dot instead of a comma without no one reminding me i guess? But thanks now someone has reminded me that its wrong so i wont do it again or if i write a dot in rush ill probably recognize it and change it to comma lol

Ok, sorry i guess i´ve just gotten used to do a dot instead of a comma

Actually this post was just a joke for seeing how people would react , ill now just change the post to a discussion on how this problem can be solved. Hope no hard feelings.

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