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    My dear, just because a certain study is not very well defined it does not mean it is nota a science. The same was the case with the function theory and elemental calculus. Leibnitz and Newton suffered to give a solid explaination regarding the usage and properties of integrals and limits. Psychology and Psychiatyr are just in avery primitive and forming phase and needs rigorous work and if dine would prove as useful as any other science.

     

    And good one on the research joke.LOL!

     

    Psychology is a research-intensive field of Science.

     

    Look how much I'm laughing

     

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    Grmbl. I know it is supposed to be funny, but several things bug me. a) evolution is not just a theory, b) I am not sure whether god is a proper hypothesis but worst of all C) if you wear gloves don't fucking touch your face!!!!

     

    Haha, I will agree with © - he could have EtBr on there or anything!

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03h8wst/QI_Series_K_Keeps/

     

    @13:45 What should you do if faced with a snake - run or keep still? 'It actually just forgets you're there if you keep still' 'I get that a lot...'

     

    @16:00 On trying to train a chimpanzee. 'Their intelligence is of a different order and it's kind of smart, but stupid. [Jane Goodall] had these chimpanzees, and when one [defecated] on the floor, of this little wooden bungalow that she had in Africa, what she would do, she would make it confront its own [faeces], spank it on the bottom and throw it out of the window, and' [interjection: 'It's ground floor, isn't it?'] 'It's ground floor, yes. And so she did that twice, and the third time, she saw one [defecate], slap its own bottom, and jump out of the window'

     

    @22:00 On nudist art: 'In 1998, a man took Northampton College to industrial tribunal, claiming that he was not being employed on the basis of his gender, and that it was sexual discrimination, in fact they were able to demonstrate that it was personal, and the reason was he fidgeted, went to the loo too often, had a background in erotic films which troubled the A-Level students, particularly one 16 year old at whom he winked when she was drawing' 'What did he wink with?'

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03h8wgr/QI_XL_Series_K_Kinetic/

     

    "What would happen if the world stopped spinning?"

     

    "Oh, there'd be numerous consequences" (bluffs)...

     

    "Go on then, name a consequence"

     

    "Well, half of the world would be plunged into eternal darkness..."

     

    "That's a very good point"

     

    "And they would all leave and come and join the light side - or would some of them go to the dark side... What about the animals, all of the ones that like the dark, they'd have to get to the dark side, all the moths would have to go that way [signals], the butterfiles would have to go that way [signals opposite direction with hand gesture]. The moles would be really confused... What about on Daybreak, when they start broadcasting? How do they know when to start daybreak? You could only grow food on half of the world, the rest of the people would have to come to the light side for food. Or they would only be able to have fungi."

     

    Love QI <3

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    Yes, I definitely regard Psychology as a Science. Investigation in the field is complicated by the fact that, as iNow has pointed out, the subjects of Psychology - humans and human behaviour - are not easily amenable to experimental intervention, or even if such intervention is technically possible, it would not always be deemed ethical to do so. For example, humans are phenotypically diverse and this is a reflection of the uniqueness of the interactions between their genome and environmental/life experiences. All of the possible confounding variables must therefore be controlled for when recruiting volunteers for psychological analysis. The same is true for any human medical Science however Psychology is different, I think, because it requires the inter-relation of biological and whole-organism behavioural phenomena - whereas Biomedical Science tends to concern itself with the behaviour of molecules, cells, tissues and organs. Therefore, there is less room for confounding variables to creep in with Biomedical Science when compared with Psychology because the organs and organ systems are relatively well understood and the resulting behaviour is very much a straightforward result of genetic and environmental factors. For example, whereas it is possible to model the effect of an environmental stimulus on some crude phenotype of importance to Biomedical Science (e.g. the secretion of a factor by cells in a cell culture dish), it is not possible to reduce phenotypes of importance to Psychology in the same way. At some point, the reductionist approach breaks down in the field of Psychology and is no longer informative with regards whole organism behaviour. Mouse and other in vivo models are useful in this respect in both Biomedical Science and in Psychology/Neuropsychology - see some of the recent work on autism in mice:

     

     

    As diagnoses of autism spectrum disorder rise, the need for effective therapies has increased in urgency. Today, a paper in Nature describes two ways of reversing autism-like symptoms in a new mouse model of the condition1.

    Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) affects up to 1 in 110 people. Although a few drugs have shown promise in mouse models, none is able to treat the core social deficits common to ASD in humans.

    A team of researchers led by Nahum Sonenberg of McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, created a new model of mouse autism, and then reversed its symptoms. They began by genetically engineering mice so that they lacked the gene Eif4ebp2.

     

     

    http://www.nature.com/news/autism-symptoms-reversed-in-mice-1.11869

     

    The brain itself is one of the most complex systems under scientific investigation and the field of Neuroscience is in its infancy so the field of Neuropsychology is still very much progressing in tandem. Thus, it seems to me that Psychology is a Science but that, until the field of Neurobiology progresses substantially further, then Psychology as a field will be limited in its approaches.

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