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Just now, studiot said:

One article ?

You suggested that most studies were at fertility clinics.

Yeah, I did. I just thought that article summed it up well. There are also:

https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2014/06/061914_cellphone-cause-infertility.php

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6240172/

https://modernfertility.com/blog/sperm/

https://www.berkleycenter.com/about-the-berkley-center/blog/2020/january/beware-men-your-smartphone-could-affect-your-rep/

1 minute ago, studiot said:

 

Let's see some evidence for your opening assertions please.

It is true that if  most studies are, in fact, conducted only at fertility clinics - something I very much doubt as that would present mamoth difficulties in finding control groups and properly analysing the data and in the final analysis it could only be valid for people at fertility clinics, whatever their fertility status, selection bias would be a big problem and many studies would fall below the bar of statistical validity.

Thank you for the reply! What about what I said in regards to there being a level playing feild (like, could it still be that phone users are 'more infertile' than non-users)? Is that something to be concerned about?

1 minute ago, swansont said:

Really? Can you cite some of them?

At best I suspect you mean correlation rather than connection, which implies some kind of causality has been established.

They would likely not count as valid scientific studies

Yes, I would say so. How is there a control group if you have already limited the population to people with fertility problems? You’d have to show the studies, but I’m not seeing how you can determine cell phone use as a cause if all of your subjects have fertility problems.  And regardless of what you might be able to show, you have to confirm that cell phone ownership or use isn’t representing some other variable.

(a famous example is the correlation between owning a pickup truck and voting republican. The pickup isn’t the cause of one’s political leanings)

Thank you so much! Yes, you're right it's more connection rather than a actual, proven link. Here is a article going into a bit more detial about the situation: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/radiation-eggs-sperm-cellphone

There have been many studies done to find out if cell phones cause infertility. Most have found that there is a positive correlation between phone use and infertility. However, most studies are done at fertility clinics and their study population is fertility patients. My question is, does the fact that the study population is fertility patients create a selection bias? Or, is the study still valid as even though the population is already experiencing fertility problems, it is still a level playing field as people who use phones the most are 'more infertile' than others? Thanks for reading this!