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10 minutes ago, Eise said:

But be aware that quantum experimenters get bigger and bigger objects in superposition. Just not in a simple "Schrödinger's cat way".

Oh, mind telling me what they got into a state of superposition bigger than a quantum particle? This is interesting..

1 minute ago, Strange said:

Schroedinger was trying to point out how strange and unintuitive quantum theory is. He was not trying to prove a cat can be alive and dead at the same time.

Yeah I get that.. That's what I said... A cat cannot be alive and dead at the same time: In other words, Schrödinger was trying to prove that a cat cannot be alive and dead at the same time.. 

3 minutes ago, Eise said:

But I do hope you can accept that quantum particles can be in two states at the same time, because that is fundamental to quantum physics

Yep.. I know that, a state of superposition..

1 minute ago, Bufofrog said:

It is an analogy.  Cats are not really alive and dead at the same time.  

But really, didn't people on quantum physics say that quantum particles can reach a collapsed state from their superposition when a conscious observer observes... He was trying to prove them wrong with his thought experiment... That it cannot apply in the real world.. So as opposed to the theory of the cat being both dead and alive until the box is opened, he's saying that it has already reached a collapsed state without the observer having to open the box. People are thinking his thought experiment proves otherwise.. It's not just an analogy...

I am quite confused... A cat cannot be alive and dead at the same time, essentially what Schrödinger was trying to prove.. A state can collapse without a conscious observer. How did so many people misinterpret his thought experiment? Or am I missing something here?