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  1. Some things are pointing to not the "Gods taking note" but possibly their own ancestors, their own dead taking note. Up there. At the big, slightly blue tinged bonfire in the sky
  2. Further notes on the relationship between the Triskele, the constellation, Solstice and the metaphor for death/renewal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Triangle Called the Winter Triangle it is visible in autumn in the east, and at Solstice. It is comprised of the brightest stars in the winter sky. The Triskele appears again on a rock covered by "cups and rings". There are hundreds of such etched rocks, even portable ones. The smaller scale (when compared to Stonehenge) appears much more in keeping with a "working calendar aspect"- like rough notes/sketches/diagrams figuring out the relationships between the constellations and seasons? The Triskele in the image below is an equal triangle unlike the off-kilter, more carefully inscribed representation in its more formal setting in the Newgrange tomb.
  3. What!!? Haha I meant cooler light, as compared to the warm light of the sun. Actually, now that you mention it, they found a smaller one nearby called Bluehenge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluestonehenge Bluestonehenge or Bluehenge (also known as West Amesbury Henge[1]) is a prehistoric henge and stone circle monument that was discovered by the Stonehenge Riverside Project about 1 mile (1.6 km) south-east of Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England.[2] All that currently remains of the site is the ditch of the henge and a series of stone settings, none of which is visible above ground.
  4. So I looked up their religious beliefs again, and there is not very much known . Although it was thought druids were responsible for this place and held rituals there, they arrived later. There aren't any statues, idols, inscriptions or depictions of any gods at Stonehenge, which makes me think they were interacting directly with their god, or what they perceived to be in the sky. I just ordered some small, blue stones from the Preseli hills, off of eBay this morning. I hope they're legit - seemed to be many samples from various sellers and they're distinctive looking. I'm going to put them in a fire and see what happens! I'm hoping they glow quite blue when heated, just like the moon. Don't think I'd be getting permission to set Stonehenge on fire...haha
  5. Baha - I thought they're still having kick ass parties there?! Everywhere I look are mentions of the calendar aspect, and how that must be the primary purpose. It's just such a massive effort, with specific blue stones hauled over from Wales, to predict seasons, when crops can grow year round in England. Also, the intense labour it took to build would take away from working the fields. I'm having a hard time believing that's the sole primary purpose. Like John said: A cathedral for communicating with their higher power
  6. Untrained artists naturally default to geometry when communicating an idea. i.e. when interpreting a landscape with trees and mountain, the horizon will bisect the central horizontal axis of the paper, the mountain will be a perfect triangle located in the center, the trees drawn as taller triangles on either side of the mountain, whose tips stop at all the same height. Classical art training is about looking for natural patterns and overcoming the human tendency to order. The Triskele in the interior of Newgrange depicts three swirls, emanating from dots. It is inside a tomb, for the dead of an agrarian culture with a preoccupation for the sky. As untrained artists, if this was an abstract picture of their concept of life and death - an invented symbol not from direct observation, the base of the triangle would have both dots/swirls on the same implied horizon, and the upper dot would be located centrally above. (The Kerb stone at the entrance shows they did know how to depict straight lines) Instead, the left base dot/swirl is higher than the right, and the upper dot/swirl is more to the right of the implied center. The Triskele "floats". This "floating" quality has already been deemed exceptional in studies of earlier Neolithic cave art. This quality suggests the image was created from direct observation, with it's off-kilter base a very important part of the message, especially because it's carved in stone. The triangular constellation appearing in the eastern sky, at a certain time of year, is easy to see. It also has an elevated left-side. The upper star also appears off center and to the right. If this constellation is visible at a time of year that corresponds with harvest, the Triskele could be a perfect metaphor for death for Neolithic farmers: "they've been harvested" or they are "awaiting their new growth". Over time the Triskele did become the abstract symbol for life and death, and it is represented by a balanced triangle.
  7. Thank you, you're right, I'm refining right now. Thank you - I know there's evidence of wooden posts there, and fire, (thought to be for cremation). I'd like to find out if the blue stones glow blue when heated. Need someone to set a fire around one over there. lol
  8. I'm embarrassed actually because I don't know the proper format in which to present this, i.e. correlation vs. causation, as mentioned above. Now I realize it's obviously all about correlation. I guess I would still like a more serious crack at presenting why three dots making a triangle is important. lol.
  9. I'd like to delete this thread, but realize now that they cannot be deleted. I read the rule posts, the where to post posts, but not the you can't delete posts post.
  10. It's speculation. When people communicate in symbol they break the subject down into its most basic recognizable elements. I understood the Triskele inside Newgrange to possibly represent the prominent triangular constellation visible in the eastern sky. (To the naked eye that constellation is much stronger) If that Triskele is the symbol for those stars, that means the radiating lines would represent "glow". On the Kerb stone are similar spirals with the "glow" and an arc, with "glow". The "glowing arc" then moves around a rectangle. The arc may be their way of differentiating the moon from the stars in their symbols.
  11. In light of the comments I think the title of the post should be changed to focus only on similarities to the moon, and not speculate on the purpose. I can't edit it out now, but I'd change it to: Stonehenge Architecture Supports Simulation of Moon Phases There are motifs at Newgrange (Ireland, tomb, built earlier) that also have a horseshoe shape. If it was their symbol for the moon (it has glow lines and is depicted moving around a rectangular shape, see pic) it may have informed the design of Stonehenge.
  12. I included the view as seen from Stonehenge because the orientation of the "horseshoe" changes when seen from other parts of the world, and felt it may be important because of Stonehenge's alignment. It is the enormous size of Stonehenge that makes me wonder about the original motivation. Massive enough to be seen from very far away. If it was only a calendar, why isn't it smaller? The Neolithic would not have known these evening "lights" had anything at all to do with seasons until they'd been tracking the changes long enough to make the correlation, and then honed the calendar aspect. This suggests there was an original preoccupation with the moon that lead to their discovery of the relationship between the moon and the seasons.
  13. Now eroding, the shape of Stonehenge was once a large, full circle of large stones and small blue ones, with an inner, horseshoe shaped arrangement. A direct comparison with an image of the full moon, as seen from Stonehenge, also shows a similar, dark, horseshoe shape in the interior. (See attached image) As a gathering and ceremonial place, fires were lit at Stonehenge. Where exactly they were lit is unknown, however, when placed in certain patterns on or near the smaller, inner blue stones, they combine to simulate the waxing and waning moon. The larger interior stones and lintels resemble the dark shadows on the moon's surface. The architecture of Stonehenge allows light to escape outwards through the uprights, creating a starburst effect. (See attached images) Although Neolithic people could not see Stonehenge from above, they were aware of what a small fire pit looked like from overhead, how rock appears darker within and the light radiates out between stones. Consider that they did not know the true nature of planets and stars. They would have attempted to make sense of the night sky by relating the view to a familiar situation, and stars glow in the night sky like distant fires. Add clouds during the day, closely resembling smoke, and it can be reasonably speculated that they may have thought there was a distant civilization of fellow human beings gathering together by fires at night, up above. The moon would represent a massive gathering with a bonfire that notably changed shape. Repeated attempts to make contact with the people at the largest bonfire - the moon - would result in a culture that tracks lunar cycles, and maps the stars (smaller or more distant fires). The Neolithic people perhaps called attention to their existence by striking the blue stones for the sound and signalled their whereabouts to the people gathered by the moon bonfire by lighting reciprocal fires within Stonehenge, mirroring the phases of the moon. _____________________________________ Hello, I'm new here and hopeful for your learned feedback. I first believed Stonehenge was to imitate a star, with the uprights systematically blocking the light to create starburst. But I couldn't explain the horseshoe in the middle. Then I saw the crescent moon in my backyard the other night, with Venus above, and it hit. I came to this by studying pictures of the art, the motifs, at other ancient sites, as I'm an artist. I'm hoping Art and Science are still great friends, because this feels like a Science issue and making paintings about this just doesn't cut it. This speculation wipes out any religious, mystery cult, paranormal purposes for Stonehenge. They just wanted to connect with what or who was up there.
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