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@MigL ........By investigating what this Fibonacci Clock has encoded into it. Physics is trying to find out what came before the Big Bang, where did the 4 fundamental forces come from? What is time? Where did time come from? What is spacetime? Someone commented that this Fibonacci Clock does not look like a clock. No. Our clocks look like this Fibonacci Wave of 'INFORMATION'. We are using clocks with 60 units and a day with 24 hours because somehow we are mimicking this wave of information. The Fibonacci Series is creating these waves of information that repeat in cycles of 60 units. These waves are encoded with tremendous amounts of mathematical data. This is how the information that generates the construct of our universe is encoded in waves of TIME exactly like physicists hope to do with Quantum Computers. I am not a scholar. I am someone who simply loves knowledge and has been searching for the answers to the riddle of Space and Time. As such, I am not confined to a single view of reality. I am not afraid to be called a numerologist or a pseudoscientist or a religious fanatic. I try to read as much as possible about what everyone has to say. I know what physics is looking for. I know almost everything they are saying about the TRUE nature of reality. I am not saying I understand all of physics or quantum physics or even 5% of it. But I do have a general grasp of the 'Bigger Picture' and what it is that they are saying about the true nature of reality. Our universe came into existence from something that predated the Big Bang. They suspect that all 4 of the fundamental forces must have been united at this point. Many are saying that the universe could be a simulation, that would mean that the universe is constructed using coded information. Like the virtual worlds on our computers. I have found all of that here in the Fibonacci Clock. Like I say, I am not a scholar. I have no reputation to lose. I feel it is my duty to share this knowledge with whoever will listen. I know that if I am right this will unlock all of the doors closed to physics right now. I guess when the TIME is right, the truth will come out. I will leave these posts here. And we can all follow the progress of science and see if it leads down this road. If any aspiring physicists do read this, please look at it with an open mind. Yes it could be wrong. Of course it could be wrong. I know that. But what if.......what if it is right? Do not feel foolish for looking at things from an alternate perspective, that is how most of the greatest discoveries were made. If its all 'nonsense' at least you would have ruled it out. I am not asking you to 'believe' in anything. If I am right, Mankind will open the doors to a whole new world. Could this be how the Fabric of Spacetime is encoded? You must remember that this is only one or two circles (waves) of information. Imagine an entire 'FIELD' of this encoded information, exactly like a 'quantum field' of energy. Thank you for allowing me to share this guys. If it is all wrong, I am sorry for wasting your TIME:

@MigL ..... this is all about information.....specifically the information that creates our universe. You sound very knowledgeable, so you must know that energy and information are inextricably linked.....up until now it was always thought that this information must be stored in some physical form....for example....a crude message scratched into a rock......or as binary code on a hard drive....it was thought that all the information that describes the physical world must be recorded in a physical form....but recently science has discovered that information can be stored within waves of TIME......i.e....Time Crystals...they hope to use these Time Crystals as memory in Quantum Computers......I know you guys have not really taken any of this seriously.....but what this means is that the information that describes our universe does not have to be a part of the physical universe....the information that describes our universe could be stored within waves of TIME....so now we could theoretically separate information from the physical world....if I am right....and I know how incredibly hard that is to believe....if I am right then the information that creates our universe is being stored inside these Fibonacci waves of Time........it is okay to mock me or call me a numerologist etc....but consider the importance of what I'm saying.... For anyone else reading this who does not know the history or importance of 'information', I highly recommend this video: Harnessing the power of Information. If I am right then the information is not a part of the physical world, but it is instead generating the construct of the physical world in exactly the same way that we can use a binary code (information) to simulate a universe on a computer.

Moving on...... Saying that the universe might be a simulation is a huge philosophical jump. If we look at the world we live in it is filled with almost infinite complexity. If this is a construct it is many orders of magnitude greater than what we humans can accomplish right now. But that is not really the greatest issue. The problem with saying the universe is only a construct is that particle physics and quantum mechanics are very good at describing the behavior of particles and even predicting the behavior of particles. The universe appears to be made up of particles. So how can it be a virtual construct? In order to understand this you need to step outside of reality and take a journey into a virtual world. I'm sure everyone here has played a modern video game. But now you have to imagine yourself actually living inside one of those virtual world. If you were the actual avatar inside a virtual world, you would not know that your reality is only a construct. You would not see the underlying code. To you physical objects would appear to be real and the space you occupy inside the virtual construct would also appear to physically exist. When your avatar interacts with objects inside a game, those objects have physical properties. Your avatar can sit on a chair as though the chair were really there. It can drive a car, etc etc. Having experience with 3d programs I can tell you that the lights you see inside a game are not real lights, the shadows, the reflections, the caustics, it's all built on information, the explosions are not real explosions so they are not made out of real energy. The liquids are not real. The gas is not real. All of the particle systems inside a virtual world are generated using information. All of the forces inside a virtual world (including gravity) are mathematically determined. If your avatar inside the game somehow became sentient and started to investigate the nature of his/her reality, they would probably conclude that all the objects inside their world were made up of tiny particles, maybe the voxels or pixels of information that render their virtual world. Their atoms. This is exactly the situation we are in. Physics is very good at understanding what our world appears to be made up of because the universe is REAL to us. But what is the avatars world really made out of? Information. Coded mathematical information. Everything he/she experiences, the light, the explosions, the acceleration of driving a car, the force of gravity, the SPACE around them, its all information. The question is not: Is the universe real? The question is: What does 'real' mean? What is the TRUE nature of reality. Is it physical or informational? We study our world and it all appears to be made up of quantized packets of energy (atoms). E=MC2. But what is that energy really? Can that energy simply be coded information? Where would the universe store that information? On a computer the information is stored on a hard drive. Where is our information being stored? Are there any similarities between energy and information? There's the law of conservation of energy. And the law of conservation of information. It seems that neither one of these can be created or destroyed. Are they fundamentally the same thing?

So I kept looking...... The first question I asked myself is what is going on here? I have 2 circles (waves) of Time with 60 units, when I smash them together I get a value of 360. I don't have a particle accelerator to smash particles together. So what am I working with? Information. The waves of Time is made up of 60 units, as in there are 60 ticks on the circumference of the circle. But the new entity of 360 is not made up of 360 units.....the 360 is the sum of those units. 180+180 = 360. I am only working with information......somehow....one set of information is converting into a different set of information. When I smash the two waves of time together I get a new entity of SPACETIME. I read up on Einstein. I learn that the universe according to Einstein is a fabric of space and time. But nobody knows what the universe really is. And nobody knows what time really is. Einstein shows that TIME is relative. Very interesting. If the universe is made up of a fabric of space and time......and TIME is relative.....does this mean that SPACE must also be relative? What does that mean? If space is only relative to me if my experience of TIME. Is space objectively real? I listen to many of the great new thinkers saying that the universe could be a simulation. You know what that means? It means that the universe could be created out of information......like a virtual world on a computer. Hhhhhmmm. I smash two waves of information together..... 2 waves of TIME .....and I get SPACETIME.....all created out of information. I must share this with the worlds greatest minds and hear what they think. I wonder what Einstein would have made of this? Could the universe be generated out of coded MATHEMATICAL information stored inside waves of TIME? Are we living inside a simulation? Is SPACE only relative to us?

Please correct me if any of this is wrong: We live in a Universe that we cannot explain. Time is a huge part of our reality. We do not know what Time is. We use mathematics to codify and understand our reality. Our number system of 0-9 was introduced to the Western world by Fibonacci in his 'Liber Abaci' in the 13th Century. This same numbering system is creating a recycling pattern of 60 numbers in the Fibonacci Series. (Empirical fact). These 60 numbers when placed around the circumference of a circle mimic a human clock. We modern day humans have no real answer as to why our ancient ancestors used 60 in a clock and 360 on a compass. We think it was random. When I connect two of these clocks of 60 units into this Venn diagram below it immediately generates the number 360. And this IMAGE is not strange at all? Not intriguing. Does not tickle any scientific curiosity. Does not raise and red flags. Must be random. Time = 60. Space = 360. To me this screams SPACETIME. So I kept looking.

@Bufofrog Here are the 60 numbers superimposed over a clock face, note how the 5's and zeroes all align with the 12 hour marks. The 5's are also all diagonally adjacent to each other and if you read my earlier document I mention how they cancel each other out 5-5 = 0. The total sum of this clock is 280. Their are 8 fives. 280 - 40 = 240. They do form a clock face with 12 hour marks and point to the 24 hours in a day. Don't you guys think it is strange at all? That we use 60 units on a clock and the Fibonacci Sequence is creating this pattern of 60 numbers that do this? Should an enquiring mind simply brush this off as random coincidence? Or should we ask questions? Is this not the very essence of scientific enquiry? I can only apologize if it is of no interest to someone, but there may be others who are intrigued by all of this. Do they have a right to see this? Do I have the right to share it? Why does it all have to be dismissed as meaningless without proper enquiry? I will humbly answer any questions that I can. I just find it all so strange. It is incredible to me.

@Bufofrog ....so it turns out that the Fibonacci sequence is creating this pattern of 60 numbers that repeat into infinity.....the numbers come from the last digit of each number in the Fibonacci sequence.....mathematicians have known about this repeating cycle for some time, but nobody thought to place the 60 numbers around the circumference of a circle....when you do that....you get a perfect clock. Here are those 60 numbers (see below). All I'm saying is, this wave of TIME is exactly like the Time Crystals proposed by recent scientific discoveries. It is encoded with mathematical information exactly as science hopes to store information in waves of time using Time Crystals in Quantum Computers. The 60 numbers in the Fibonacci Sequence repeat cycle are: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 3, 1, 4, 5, 9, 4, 3, 7, 0, 7, 7, 4, 1, 5, 6, 1, 7, 8, 5, 3, 8, 1, 9, 0, 9, 9, 8, 7, 5, 2, 7, 9, 6, 5, 1, 6, 7, 3, 0, 3, 3, 6, 9, 5, 4, 9, 3, 2, 5, 7, 2, 9, 1 Here are the first 72 digit in the Fibonacci series, see what happens after 59, the end numbers start to repeat: 0 : 0 1 : 1 2 : 1 3 : 2 4 : 3 5 : 5 6 : 8 7 : 13 8 : 21 9 : 34 10 : 55 11 : 89 12 : 144 13 : 233 14 : 377 15 : 610 16 : 987 17 : 1597 18 : 2584 19 : 4181 20 : 6765 21 : 10946 22 : 17711 23 : 28657 24 : 46368 25 : 75025 26 : 121393 27 : 196418 28 : 317811 29 : 514229 30 : 832040 31 : 1346269 32 : 2178309 33 : 3524578 34 : 5702887 35 : 9227465 36 : 14930352 37 : 24157817 38 : 39088169 39 : 63245986 40 : 102334155 41 : 165580141 42 : 267914296 43 : 433494437 44 : 701408733 45 : 1134903170 46 : 1836311903 47 : 2971215073 48 : 4807526976 49 : 7778742049 50 : 12586269025 51 : 20365011074 52 : 32951280099 53 : 53316291173 54 : 86267571272 55 : 139583862445 56 : 225851433717 57 : 365435296162 58 : 591286729879 59 : 956722026041 60 : 1548008755920 61 : 2504730781961 62 : 4052739537881 63 : 6557470319842 64 : 10610209857723 65 : 17167680177565 66 : 27777890035288 67 : 44945570212853 68 : 72723460248141 69 : 117669030460994 70 : 190392490709135 71 : 308061521170129 72 : 498454011879264 @studiot Hi. No I'm not saying space has to end. I'm saying that if space goes on forever and ever, then the term "forever and ever" implies that the universe only exists inside of Time because forever and ever is an expression of time and not of size. If you like 5040 check this out. This Fibonacci Clock is creating flowering patterns like a 'magic square' but on steroids, this thing has deep programming. That is so mathematically beautiful. You guys must not be put off by the mystical connotations of the seed of life pattern. Focus on the mathematical beauty of this design. Compare it to our magic squares. This is next level.

Apologies for upsetting anyone. Let me try to answer the questions raised. What did the universe do before we were here? The universe is eternal, so it exists as this wave of information for eternity. We are a part of that information. We only see the universe as a construct because we collapse the wave function and we see the particle universe. So there is really no before or after us. Time is only relative to us. We are only seeing this universe relative to us. The base 10 multiplication. Yes. That didn’t sit right with me as well. I was trying to get to 5.972. I think even 0.5972 is still pretty amazing. Can it be total coincidence? And yes, kg are arbitrary, mass is also only relative to us. The clock stuff - That is really the gist of all this. Was our use of the numbers 60 and 360 simply a random historical accident or did someone know about this 'Fibonacci Clock'? The clock is 60 and if we add two of them together we get 360. Notice that this wave has helicity. It has left handed and a right handed forms. See image. the two circle of time add up to the 360 of space. I am not trying to rewrite all of physics. I am trying to learn as much of it as I can. It amazes me what we have been able to learn. When I listen to the great thinkers of our day they all seem to be saying that we might need a new type of physics to answer the questions that remain. Where did the universe come from? I am simply trying to think differently. Thanks guys. I do love physics. I do admire how they managed to explain so much. And I do believe they have 90% if not 99% of it right. I simply question the fundamental nature of reality. Thanks for allowing me to share these thoughts in here.

@Airbrush I think the base nature of any 'reality' has to be informational. And that information has to be stored in TIME. The concept of 'space' is irrational. Where would space end? And what would be outside that space? And so on…..ad infinitum. To say that space will simply expand forever and ever or that the universe will recycle forever and ever actually provides the answer. Because the term "Forever and ever" is an expression of TIME. The universe 'any universe' can only exist in TIME. It takes up zero space. It is only a construct generated by waves of TIME. Time itself being relative. Hence the universe only exists relative to us. We collapse the wave function and generate the simulation relative to us. That simply means our conscious minds decode the information in the wave and the universe is rendered relative to us. I don’t think there is an advanced civilization that has programmed our construct. I think it is the fundamental nature of reality itself - we can only exist as information. That information is eternal, it cannot be created or destroyed. Please look at this Fibonacci Wave of Time. There is so much mathematical information packed into this thing. It is incredible. The wave is made up of the 60 Fibonacci Numbers. But then it also has the 24 Lucas repeat cycle numbers. And all prime numbers larger than 5 end in 1,3,7 or 9 (look at the numbers around the 4 zeroes. This thing is like an Alien Artifact with deep programming. Apologies. Here is the image with the mass of the earth. So as our earth rotates on its central axis it creates our 24 hours. If you split this Fibonacci wave down its central axis, the difference is 24. But look deeper. If we divide the 2 sides. 128/152 = 0.8421 Cube that since the earth is a sphere = 0.5972. Multiply by 10 for base 10 = 5.972 I know it seems like a jump, but somehow the mass of the earth is coded into this wave that is also creating a perfect human clock. I know how crazy it all sounds. I have been puzzling over this thing for 10 years. The number 5.972 is not a random number. The mathematical odds of this are insane. The mass of the earth is: 5,972 × 10^24 kg This is what gives rise to mass when this thing collapses. Its all coded information.

But the up, up down quarks are the first generation quarks....no? So once we have those, the others can be explained or created from these primordial quarks. Thanks for keeping an open mind. Ponder this, that's all I can ask. But think of the potential for physics if we can now see the mathematical blueprint for the quark. Or its energy signature, if you like. How incredible is it that the Fibonacci wave collapses into a perfect right angled triangle? I don't even know how to explain that. A2 + B2 = C2. Please go and look at that wave and at the triangle. It is incredible. That is the wave/particle duality. The wave collapses into the particle.

Hi, thanks for the patience guys. Yes sure. Let me try to summarize the gist of this discovery. Physicists have recently discovered the existence of Time Crystals. They figure they can use these Time Crystals as memory to store information in Quantum Computers. Lex Fridman and Neil Gershenfeld recently did a podcast where Neil explains how the universe must be built on information and how Quantum computers are actually revealing something about the deeper nature of reality. Can I post links to that YouTube discussion? Its so relevant. Anyway. I have found something that seems to indicate that the universe really is a construct that is being generated from information stored in waves of time, exactly as they hope to use Time Crystals. That information comes in waves and can be decoded using the Fibonacci Sequence. The Fibonacci series is creating a pattern of 60 numbers that repeat into infinity. Those 60 numbers form a perfect human clock, as seen in the image attached. This wave of information contains all 4 of the Fundamental forces, i.e: Strong Nuclear Force, Weak Nuclear Force, Electromagnetism and Gravity. So just as physicists suspect, all 4 forces were once all part of one entity. Here is an image explaining the 4 forces: (see 2nd image). That electromagnetic wave of information is stable and has no mass or charge and it doesn't take up any space, it then collapses into the sub-atomic particle, the triangular quanta of energy 'the Neutron Quark'. The triangular image of the Quark was in my original post. (ADDED AGAIN). Those 3 wavelengths of energy inside that triangle are neutral because the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the square of the other 2 sides. The energy all still balance themselves out. (Exactly as they do in Quantum Chromodynamics inside a neutron) But the triangle of energy is no longer as stable as the wave of energy was. The 4 forces are no longer in equilibrium as they are now running across a triangle of energy, not a circular wave. This neutron quark now starts to beta-decay. A tiny amount of energy (information) is ejected from the set of 3 Quarks, that tiny bit of energy becomes the electron with a charge of -1 and the original quark now decays into a set of proton quarks with a charge of +1. See image. The proton is not a right angled triangle of energy and the 3 waves (3 quarks) do not cancel each other out. The proton has a charge. Now we have all the building block of the physical universe or construct. The decayed Quark became a proton and an electron. That is the hydrogen atom that collapses into the primordial stars, from there classical physics takes over, the stars create all the heavier elements and eject those when the stars explode. And the rest of the universe is built. But it is all built on this mathematical information stored inside these waves of time. Our brains take this coded mathematical information and use it to construct the simulation we see around us. It is all built solely on information. There is not only one of these Fibonacci waves of energy that collapse, there is an entire field, like a Quantum Field, as the Fibonacci series creates this wave of information that recycles for all eternity. So imagine all those waves of energy collapsing into the neutron quarks, they decay into the proton and electrons and the entire universe is filled with hydrogen atoms. Those atoms form the first stars. Can you guys see how it is all built on information? Energy is actually information. When we create a virtual world on our computers its all information. The explosions inside a game are not real energy, the lights are not real, everything inside a simulation is all created using information. That is exactly how our universe is constructed. Thank you guys for being patient and listening.

Hi, I believe that I have found proof that the universe is a mathematical construct generated using waves of Time. It's easier if you read my free online Google document outlining this discovery: Is the universe a Matrix? Please read with an open mind and please excuse me if I have posted this under the wrong section. I believe that I have found the mathematical blueprint for a Quark particle, and that this knowledge will unlock all the secrets to the universe. Here is the image for the Quark (see attached) Please read with an open mind. Thank you for your Time.

Thanks. I am trying to wrap by brain around this in practical terms, from the point of view of two separate observers. So let's say this thing we call 'TIME' only comes into existence at the point of creation. We both agree that we are viewing the same event. You say that thing we call TIME, that only came into existence at the Big Bang, can be different for the two of us - RELATIVE TO US. For me the event could have happened 15 billion years ago and for you only 13.75 billion years ago. I'm using smaller differences based on replies. But assume any difference, even slight. If we are on different galaxies, let's say you are on earth, I'm in a different galaxy on a different planet. What does 13.75 billion years even mean to me? I would have my own units of time based on my planets rotation, etc……If I never knew about earth I would have no idea of your concept of TIME. I can only compare TIME relative to you based on your measurement of time. Right? Maybe what I call 15 billion years on my planet could be exactly 13.75 years on your planet. Or maybe what I call 1 billion years is only a million years to you. I can only compare TIME relative to someone else. So now the concept of 'TIME' becomes something based on you. Time is not 'external'. Time is what you experience and can only be different when compared to someone else. That's logical right? Let me give you a better example. Say I build a time machine and I travel forward in time by a 100 years, but during the trip I lose my memory. How will I know that I have traveled forward in time? I won't know it unless I have some point to compare it to. I will simply be in the present, not in the future. Now let's go back to the Big bang. We are on different planets. We both observe the same event - The Big Bang. If we never ever meet each other to compare experiences. Time for each of us will be whatever we say it is. I can say the universe is 15 billion years old based on what I call a year. And you on earth can say the universe is 13.75 billion earth years old based on earth time. If we do meet, or contact each other somehow, and want to compare our notes on the age of the universe. One of us will have to convert their units of TIME to achieve anything. If we do this. I can only conclude that my 15 billion years is exactly equal to your 13.75 billion years. Because TIME is only what each one of us says it is. You could of course use my measurements and agree that the universe is in fact 15 billion Spagoolars old (that’s what we call a year on my planet). In either case we are using the same measure of TIME. A UNIVERSAL notion of time. If TIME indeed has a creation point at the moment of the Big Bang. Lol. I am getting lost in all of this. But thanks for taking the time to engage. I love this topic. I can't help but feel there is something very important here. If you get into a spaceship and travel at twice the speed of time. Or close to a black hole as per your example. How will you know that you are experiencing TIME different to me? You can only know if you compare it to me and convert your units of time to mine. If you come back to earth from your trip to the event horizon and find that I have aged 60 years and you have only aged by 6 years. Then your 60 years must be equal to my 6 years. Right? If its equal it must be the same. Right? This only matters if we have a "start point" or "big bang", lets say you left for the event horizon when we were both 20 years old. That's our reference point. If you have no reference point, you could go to the edge of a black hole and come back and never know that you traveled faster or slower because you have nothing to compare it to.

"It is the same event, but different amounts of time have elapsed since then as measured by different observers. " Hhhhmm. This is what I wanted to hear. So you saying that the universe could be, say 30 billion years old, for some observers? So the age of the universe is only relative to us then? P.S. I am not really claiming that there is a "UNIVERSAL TIME" or 'ABSOLUTE TIME', I think there is in fact no absolute time and the universe could be eternal, but only 13.75 billion years old relative to us.

But do you agree that if TIME itself only came into existence at the moment of the Big Bang, that time must be the same for everyone inside the universe? You can call that 'TIME' whatever you like. It must be universal. The universe cannot come into existence relative to us (at different points in TIME), if we are in different galaxies for example, because TIME itself never existed before the Big Bang. So before this we had no different points in TIME. Time did not exist (according to Big Bang). So if TIME only came into existence at the point of the Big Bang, that TIME must be 'THE SAME' to everyone inside the universe. It must be UNIVERSAL and not relative. You say "NO", please elaborate. Explain how that TIME can be different for beings living in two separate galaxies for example. How can the universe come into existence at two different points in TIME, if TIME itself never existed before the Big Bang? How can that 'TIME' be relative. It must be universal. Or the Big Bang must be wrong. Thanks for taking the time to ponder this.