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Everyone I found referred to the velocity along the orbital path as "sideways" as it parallels the sun's surface, i.e., orthogonal to a line from the planet to the center of the Sun. I've looked at the radial component and it isn't what I am looking for. The 3 km/s in the original post is the range I am looking at confirming, and then solving for the other planets will nail it all down. But I can't do that until I know how they computed the 3 km/s. That is not a typo, either, which is clear from the whole context of the answer. (Also, the earth's average velocity is not 30 km/s, as someone noted above, but 29.79 km/s, often referenced as 29.8, as on this NASA site https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/)

You are looking at space and time wrong. What we are looking at is the evolving energy field, not a fixed space. Time evolves space, and spatial events, forward in the forward direction of time, which has no depth. So even though we see dimensions, there is no depth, just an evolving energy field. As time evolves the continuum forward, we see the apparent curvature of motion as events evolve down dilation gradients. My paper was reviewed and published, not paid for. As for the JofC, after I was published, I acted as managing editor/webmaster for nearly a year and saw the inside workings. All papers are reviewed and fees are even waived for authors who cannot afford them. There is a vanity press aspect for the owners of the journal, but not for others they publish. They haven't published anything in about 6 months due to mental "end of life" issues of the Executive Editor. Until that is resolved I suggest people do not submit to them. If you check Vol 27 you will see what the problem is. The reference was to planetary orbits, not circles. Thanks for that, but it doesn't really help.

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You know, one of the reasons I hate asking questions in this particular forum is the snide remarks i get. I come back from time to time because I have had things clarified for me here. But the rude comments really show a lack of professionalism and make it difficult to come here. I am doing time dilation cosmology. Whereas you see objects "falling thru" space. I see objects evolving along time dilation gradients in an evolving energy field. For instance, the reason light bends around massive objects is because it is evolving down the time dilation gradient. It is not because space is bent. It is because the forward direction of evolution is down the dilation gradient. This is happening to all particle events, regardless of size or complexity. I am just wondering if anyone here can tell me how to compute the gravitational component without getting into working EFE's? It should be a simple Newtonian calculation, but damned if I can find it.

This is why it has to manifest as just a velocity. Otherwise we'd spiral in. Velocities are accelerated in a gravity well. You are not looking deeply enough at the contributing factors. I understand what you are saying, but I am not asking that. I am a published cosmologist. Thanks, though.

Here is a link to the site. It is the top answer. http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=770 I should mention that I found statements like, "the sideways velocity is almost entirely due to the forward momentum...", or some such, "sideways" meaning parallel to the Sun's surface, without explaining the other factor(s). The Earth is always passing tangentially to the Sun, but gravity is accelerating the Earth downward. In a stable orbit, the acceleration due to gravity manifests as a steady velocity towards the Sun's center, orthogonal to the sideways motion. As the orbit is stable, that downward velocity combines with the tangential velocity and gives us the total free fall velocity along the curve of the orbit. I am trying to figure out how to compute that gravitational velocity component.

A UCSB site says, " However, the Earth is actually moving sideways compared to the center of the Sun at 3 km/second...." Normally "sideways" refers to the forward orbital direction, which is at 29.79 km/s, so I am assuming this is the velocity towards the center of the Sun due to gravity, that is offset by the acceleration in a stable orbit. Is that correct? And how does one calculate that sideways velocity for any planet? Thanks.