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1. 89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite March 4, 2016 - by A.N. Wyatte 89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite - The New Observer Nonwhites commit 89% of all crime in New York City, including 97.7% of all shootings, 96% of all robberies, 94.2% of all Murders, 94.9% of all Juvenile Felony and Misdemeanor crimes, and 90.6% of all rapes. These figures are contained in the New York City Police Department’s latest “Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City” report, which covers the dates January 1 to December 31, 2015. It can be found on the New York Government website here (PDF). NYPD Report - Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City The report is almost Unique in present-day America because it Openly presents statistics on race and crime compiled from the New York City Police Department’s records management system—statistics that are most often Suppressed by other police departments. In addition, the NYPD breaks down the racial categories correctly, listing “Hispanic” separately instead of grouping it together with “white,” which is what most of the US government does (thereby artificially inflating the “white” crime levels). 2. 'Color of Crime' update/summary excerpts The Color of Crime | American Renaissance Crime rates There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the Lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups. In 2013, a black was Six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race. ...... Urban centers In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for Murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a Bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. If New York City were all white, the Murder rate would drop by 91%, the robbery rate by 81%, and the Shootings rate by 97%. In an all-white Chicago, Murder would decline 90%, rape by 81%, and robbery by 90%. ..... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a...rime_in_London Race and crime in London Figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that in 2007 an estimated 10.6% of London's population of 7,556,900 were Black.[23] [.......] In June 2010 The Sunday Telegraph, through a Freedom of Information Act request, obtained statistics on accusations of crime broken down by race from the Metropolitan Police Service.[2] The figures showed that the Majority of males who were accused of Violent crimes in 2009–10 were Black. Of the recorded 18,091 such accusations against males, 54% accused of street crimes were black; for robbery, 59%; and for gun crimes, 67%.[25] Robbery, drug use, and gang violence have been associated with black people since the 1960s.[26] In the 1980s and 1990s, the police associated robbery with black people. In 1995, the Metropolitan Police commissioner Paul Condon said that the majority of robberies in London were committed by black people.[27] [......] In London in 2006, 75% of the victims of Gun crime and 79% of the suspects were "from the African/Caribbean community."[31]

Many argue that there are no Mental differences across the Races. No, IQ, No behavior, etc. Of course, this makes no more sense than saying the same about the more obvious Physical Adaptations. Tthe Brain IS a physical organ as well. Saying there are no mental differences is Denying Evolution, and is just Obfuscating for the sake of PC. Crime is higher for Blacks and Hispanic not just in the USA/Nightly TV, its higher worldwide. In South America, Africa, and in those minorities even in places like the UK/London which had No slavery. ie: overall USA numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a...tates#Homicide Homicide According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008,with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for Blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). [.......] Robbery According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times Higher than whites, and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. Robberies with White victims and Black offenders were more than 12 Times more common than the reverse.[38][39] CONSISTENT with Worldwide Homicide rates So, like IQ, another Mental/Behavioral trait, it's pretty consistent across continents despite 'oppression'.. or not. cont'd.

sethofLAGOS: They are too good and there are too many of them to be consistent with your statistical analysis.b]/endsthgofLAGOS[/b] Bering strait: How many is "Too many" to be consistent with my analysis? This is NONSENSE speak. Pure Anecdote. Every Bell Curve has a Right hand side You obviously know NOTHING about statistics, nor simple logic. sethofLAGOS: For the reasons outlined above, the fact that there is an 'IQ elite' in Nigeria (and it only has to produce ONE highly exceptional individual) demonstrates that the genetic material necessary to achieve that excellence is inherent in the parent population. So my statistical evidence is Wole Soyinka - our Nobel laureate. I could have chosen from many others/ End sethLAgos Bering strait: Every Bell Curve has a Right hand side. ONE Outstanding individual does NOT refute an overall lower average IQ. WTH! Your Home-boy debate is so Bad, it strongly tends to prove MY point about .. um.. a Race. And he's a Poet/Playwright., NOT a Nuclear Physicist! Big Deal! That kinda SUCKS for a population of Nigeria: 173 Million. 2/3 the size of the USA and you've got ONE "Soft" Nobel Prize! ! ! (as opposed to the 'hard' sciences) LOFL. It proves MY point.. spectacularly. 14 Million Ashkenazi Jews (the highest IQ group) and app 1/12th the size of the Nigerian population, have won HUNDREDS Of Nobel Prizes. Real Ones, in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Economics, etc. More than 20% of them. What a Horrendously ILLOGICAL/LAUGHABLE Post. OFF the charts BACKFIRING Bad! Speechless, Numbing, Undebatable! EDIT to below: the undebatable sethofLagos After making THEE MOST OBTUSE/BACKFIRING POST I HAVE EVER SEEN, EVER... sethofLagos Reprehensibly 'short-quoted' me and did NOT address ANY of my Points. Then Reprehensibly, said I need to "work on my debate".. that he didn't fully quote! 173 Million Nigerians - 2/3 the USA size - and only ONE Stinking Nobel Prize: an honorary 'literature' one. That was his "proof" they are not lower IQ! Of course, if anything, it's Pathetic, and proof sub-Saharans have gone Nowhere..

How did I get interested in this? The Klan? My Militia neighbors? Right Wing politics? NO I grew up in a well-to-do Liberal household in the burbs, and still hold mostly Progressive views. Always a bit of a Science buff (and Sciam reader), I found myself Debating Evangelical Creationists on Political message boards. Really just a small sideline to my Economic, World Politics, and Science interests/posts. I still do straighten out the Creationists (mostly, but not solely Christian) some of my posting time. But more amazing/challenging to me (who resents mindless PC) is the 'Liberal Creationists', who say they believe in evolution, but demand but demand it stopped 200K years ago, and stopped only in humans. Ironically (or not?), in my reply just above refuting Graves, we See the SAME argument we see from Creationists! "It's not true because you can't show "mechanism." (!) I'm having the same debate with the seemingly opposite, but same, deniers. Graves is a Stupid Partisan with a few letters after his name. What an idiotic claim. Perhaps his bias blinds him. he could NOT debate me. 'Liberal Creationism', a Term from an article of that Title in Liberal Slate Magazine. An article acknowledging there IS race difference in IQ. If you google that term you will see the article, first up. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=liberal%20creationism Of course, (when you click on it) you'll see the Censorial, Spineless, Leftist, Brownshirts, changed the title to "Created equal" due to reader outrage, even tho it elaborated the opposite. That is what we are up against. But the handwriting is On the wall. Genes WILL tell us why there are differences, and have already hinted such. Economist mag. The looming crisis in human genetics Nov 13th 2009 Premium content | Economist.com RichardDawkins.net Forum • View topic - The looming crisis in human genetics "...Human geneticists have reached a private Crisis of Conscience, and it will become public knowledge in 2010. The crisis has depressing health implications and alarming political ones. In a nutshell: the new genetics will reveal much less than hoped about how to cure disease, and much more than feared about human evolution and Inequality, including genetic differences between classes, ethnicities and Races.... [..........] The trouble is, the resequencing data will reveal much more about human evolutionary history and ethnic differences than they will about disease genes. Once enough DNA is analysed around the world, science will have a panoramic view of human genetic variation across races, ethnicities and regions. We will start reconstructing a detailed family tree that links all living humans, discovering many surprises about mis-attributed paternity and covert mating between classes, castes, regions and ethnicities. We will also identify the many genes that create physical and Mental differences across populations, and we will be able to estimate when those genes arose. Some of those differences probably occurred very recently, within recorded history. Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending argued in “The 10,000 Year Explosion” that some human groups experienced a vastly accelerated rate of evolutionary change within the past few thousand years, benefiting from the new genetic diversity created within far larger populations, and in response to the new survival, social and reproductive challenges of agriculture, cities, divisions of labour and social classes. Others did Not experience these changes until the past few hundred years when they were subject to contact, colonisation and, all too often, extermination. If the shift from GWAS to sequencing studies finds evidence of such politically awkward and morally perplexing facts, we can expect the usual range of ideological reactions, including nationalistic retro-racism from conservatives and outraged denial from blank-slate liberals. The few who really understand the genetics will gain a more enlightened, live-and-let-live recognition of the biodiversity within our extraordinary species—including a clearer view of likely comparative advantages between the world’s different economies.... So get on the right side of History. Harvard does see the writing/GENES on the Wall. As Charles Murray (Bell Curve) told a Harvard audience at an Invited appearance (2014) on the 20th anniversary of that savaged book... "we are entering an era.. It's analogous the Copernican Revolution, where everyone is a Ptolemyist, and there there comes a point in which it's scientifically unacceptable to be a Ptolemyist any more..." -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_bFpmNSBiY- (unopened youtube I hope) So you know its coming. Stop trying to prove you're a good post-colonial/white-guilt good guy. Learn the truth, and tell it. EDIT" Can't respond to sethoflagos (pathetic/fallacious mini zit) as it becomes part of this post even though I quoted him This board is HORRENDOUS GARBAGE will do so again when time allows it to become separate. this forum is mechanically Garbage. "sci" my a$$. 15 years of posting: probably 100 mbs. Some of them rinky dinks. Never had a problem elsewhere Never seen such a POS.

As I said: Now Graves Bering Strait: That's Obtuse and completely FALSE. Just because we can't always explain Mechanism does NOT invalidate statistical truths. We don't have Mechanism on how Cigarettes Cause Lung cancer, but we accept it as a Truth because of app 30-50 years of statistical confirmation. (even though not all smokers get Lung cancer and not all Lung Cancer is caused by cigarettes). Similarly, and even more thoroughly, we have 100 Years of IQ tests all telling us the Same thing. We never get upside down results. We also don't have 'mechanism' on much of the rest of the Same Topic, Evolution/Speciation, but it's a Fact! GRAVESThe brain's development (and hence that of the intellect) is profoundly influenced by environmental and developmental factors. Genetically identical groups of rats deprived of environmental stimuli were measured as less intelligent and had less cerebral folding than rats given environmental stimuli. In the modern world, there is no equivalence of social and physical environments between Africans/African Americans and Europeans/Euro- and Asian Americans. /END Graves Bering strait: 1. There are many studies showing even Much higher income Blacks Underperform Middle class and Poor Whites. Stunning Results from: Journal for Blacks in Higher Education http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html ie • Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 993. This is 129 points higher than the national mean for all blacks. • Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 61 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000. • Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 85 points below the mean score for whites from all income levels, 139 points below the mean score of whites from families at the same income level, and 10 points below the average score of white students from families whose income was less than $10,000. Bering Strait: Also more convincing/thorough, we have IQ differential remaining even after (the Great Equalizer Trans-racial adoption studies) adoption by White Middle Class Parents.. Twins reared apart, in different circumstances, come out remarkably the same. And that Racial admixtures, such as 'coloreds' in South Africa, and 'Blacks' in the USA both score app 85 on IQ tests, midway between the 'Euro' 100 and sub-Saharan 70. Just what one would expect if IQ is Genetic. Great Summary here: Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/Race-differences-in-average-IQ-are-largely-genetic.aspx and of course, also "merely" Statistically, we know IQ is 75% Heritable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Estimates NOT environmental Amazingly Consistent with the Latest study I've seen: Maths and reading skills found to be 75 per cent genetic | SBS NewsNew research shows Genes are more Important in explaining differences in academic performance than teachers and schools. By Madeleine King - 15 March 2016 http://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/article/2016/03/14/maths-and-reading-skills-found-be-75-cent-genetic?cid=trending (SBS is Australian Public TV) Australian research into the academic performance of twins in NAPLAN tests has revealed that skills in maths, reading and spelling are up to 75% genetic. Genetics also had a 50% impact on writing skills. In stark contrast, the influence of teachers and schools on students was only found to be around 5%, when looking at why children performed better or worse than their peers. So really ALL evidence points to Genetic, as at least part/MAJORITY of IQ, not environment. Also see opinions of 'expert opinion' I posted in post #104, that 100% Silenced Ejay. Because according to him/HIS definition, about 80% of Experts would be at least part 'Racists.' Not all the "mechanism"/physical differences/Genes for the Races have been found yet, but there are many likely candidates, including Groups of Genes in the Latest Research. Only the oldest being, Brain size differential, which still has some value. Graves: As for supposed physical differences in head (or brain size). First, there has been no systematic measurement of cranial sizes for sufficient numbers of populations in humans. This is important because Africa and Asia are huge continents with many populations/ethnic groups. No physical measurement taken from 1 or a few populations could be expected to represent all Africans or Asians. Second, the relationship between "intelligence" and brain size/body ratio holds broadly over species level, but not within a species[/End Graves] "Bering strait: There are many studies showing Race difference in Brain size (that correlates with Race/IQ) see, ie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Brain_size http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028960200137X This is the refutation of 'agendized' Bigoted Leftists and Afro-Centric Liars. Who demand Evolution stopped 200,000 years ago, but only in Mental/Cognitive areas, despite vastly different demands of their environment. Most recently/more recently than "R/K" is 'Citification,' which put much greater need on the Transactional rather than simple hunter-gatherer skills. The Brilliant Book by Harpending/Cochran explaining how and WHY the IQ differences developed.. and in just the last 10,000 years! The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution https://www.google.com/search?q=10%2C000+year+explosion&oq=10%2C000+yea&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0l4.4793j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 More simple common sense, rather than we-the-same Graves et al. And if you wish to Ignore Any small Rushton portion (especially if entails replying with 3 foot Long sections of Graves-as-God), please do. The Balance/Majority remains strong and consistent evidence. IOW: Please note How I use Links/citations, instead of the Giant Board-Burying Eclipses my opponent uses/obfuscates debate with.

Ejay: "I never claimed that every single person who claims there are racial differences in intelligence is racist and I don't need to prove that. The evidence that many of them are racist is all of the racism that you see on the internet so I strongly suspect that every person I encounter on the internet who makes the claim is a racist. In fact I ran an experiment on a racist message board where I made a poll and asked people how many of them claim to believe in racial differences in intelligence but do not consider themselves to be racist. I defined what racism meant and gave them an opportunity to make their case that they are not racist. I told them to answer a questionnaire testing whether they were racist and said I would check their post history for consistency. Every single one of them failed. In my experience people saying that they believe in racial differences in intelligence but are not racist are generally liars. I accept that there may be exceptions but if there are they need to prove that." /END Ejay Bering Strait Basically you HAVE claimed that everyone who believes in Race Difference in IQ Is a Racist. In fact, and Again, that IS YOUR DEFINITION of Racist as posted on the last few pages of this string. Anyone who believes Racial difference in IQ ('Physical' was left out, as you tacitly feel/condone saying Blacks are better athletes is OK) I pointed to an example from another general politics board on the bottom of the last page, where you Cursed out a highly Respected IQ researcher as a Racist too. And you said Everyone was a racist, just some of them/us put Asians on top, but we were Still "Neo-Racists" and "still White." WHO is the Racist again? NO ANSWER. And, Ironically, your above post was the usual Fallacious Joke. Your Ultimate "evidence", (NONE of which you posted here), was to go to a "Racist Message board....". Come again? That's just admittedly Bad Sampling. Mind Numbingly Bad Logic too. Off the charts goofy or UNWITTINGLY Disingenuous. It's funny: This string started with everyone on the Race denial side. Singlehandedly, your Terrible logic and accusatory posting has made it do a 180. And now everyone wants a piece of your accusations and easily Refuted 'stuff'. Congrats. ` EDIT to below: Note below Ejay has NO answer to his Falsehood on who is a Racist. According to him, (and by HIS Own DEFINITION) it/was is EVERYONE who believes there is a difference in Race and IQ. Even eminent researchers... especially because they're "still White." Horrific Racist IDEAS all from Ejay's own posts. UNanswered (and too embarrassed to even quote it) His "evidence" (that we were all Racists) was going to.... a "Racist Message board" with a 'test.' Unbelievable, and of course no reply to my pointing this Numbingly Bad Sampling. NO Answer He's been reduced to small paragraphs now in all his [non] 'replies to me, Unable to deal with his own words, and Unable to Shoehorn/SPAM in Joseph Graves. Without whom he has NOTHING simply logical to say. /string

Nonsense and Not true. In response to one of the county's most Esteemed IQ researchers Linda Gottfredson, (professor emeritus of educational psychology, University of Delaware and co-director of the Delaware-Johns Hopkins Project for the Study of Intelligence and Society and DOZENS of other credentials (heads of Psych Orgs/societies) incl testifying before congress many times) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=479911&p=1066732661#post1066732661 EgalitarianJay Said THIS: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=479911&page=3&p=1066734497#post1066734497 WHO IS THE RACIST? WHO Is willing to Consider Rationally/Reasonably? WTH is wrong with this board? It makes you requote-mark after every sentence. GARBAGE The above was all a single Ejay Paragraph. And for the Record.. Ejay was 100% SILENCED by my direct rebuttal #104: http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/87551-did-humans-evolve-into-separate-races-that-differ-in-mental-traits/page-6#entry933647 Racial categorization IQ numbers. Expert Opinion on Genetic vs Non-genetic component of IQ. Silenced. `

(THIS BOARD FORMAT SUCKS] Bering strait: Speak English. That is Precisely what I said you did. Allowing for Physical difference Only. What planet are we on. it's not even a strawman, its a total Misread. Bering strait: What! So you are acknowledging Mental differences that account for everything from the Wealth of Nations (Races that occupy those nations) to crime rates! Ooops So you are now doing a 180° [/size]Turn on your 100,000 Race-denilaist posts? "Why do race - realists fixate on them". Who says they do. It comes up usually only on message boards, and again, YOU are the Denial champ (of what you just said!) on that front. I post on economics, Europe, Middle East, general Science, News, politics, food, etc. Bering strait: You just ADMITTED above that These Mental; differences have adaptive advantages. Now you say there;s No reason to assume the do. This, btw, is where Graves is wrong, and YOU are now Disagreeing with him. AGAIN it's only logical some mental differences/Behavior IQ would evolve in response to different environments. Me, Watson, and all other 3 digit IQers. Bering strait: Except YOU countered Graves with your own NEW admission, with a rationale for different mental adaptations. Bering strait: My point was that you are a selecta-Racist. That your definition of Racist, at least Twice uttered on the last page alone, Designates ONLY those as saying there is an IQ difference. So again, you allow/omit for one obvious advantage of a Race, while castigating another with huge (and singular) statistical and life outcome evidence. IOW, If I said Blacks are innately better Sprinters/Marathoners you would NOT call me a Racist. I will still be getting to Graves-the-Clown when I get a chance. (this reply took yet more time) The article on the last page is ridiculous. I'm alot smarter than your social agenda professor-god whose in no position to acknowledge any difference. And indeed holds that position for That reason.

On the contrary: My post made simple logical statements 1. About YOUR Inconsistency/Hypocrisy in 'Racism'. That YOU allow/condone the area where 'Blacks' excel, (Physical Pursuits), and call Racism ONLY someone who advocates IQ/Mental difference when that (IQ, Behavior etc) would only ALSO Be Natural Adaptation to different environments. 2. I used a Watson quote on that same simple Point of Evolutionary Logic. 3/Finally: Another Hypocrisy. While you accuse others of being obsessed/Motivated by other than intellect, it's YOU who make ALL your 'super hero' (avatar) posts as much defending a Single race as in all ways equal... except in the one way they're superior, that is. So It did NOT require your usual SPAM City, replete with both an 'Uncle' Joe Graves youtube and article. Just simple logical reply and explanation of those/your conflicting ideas. (or at most a paragraph/excerpt from that Graves article) Didn't happen. Your posts are default programmed. Many intended to Bury/Bludgeon with that multimedia Volume. (and ergo Unnecessarily include lines with his address, suite number, etc, etc.) Backfired. In fact, it doesn't matter what/who you post, EJay is going to put up Graves (as scripture) and Rushton v Graves. That's it. Never mind the world/genetics is moving on, and finding more genetic difference every day. Several areas now thought Likely candidates for IQ. More coming on that Goofy Graves article.

Finally a partial admission/concession to the obvious What's so Troubling, and Inconsistent about your posts is you always specify [just] IQ differences as "Racist", but for Physical differences/ability 'Black' superiority' is given tacit approval/a pass. Of course, the Skull and Brain ARE Physically different among races, and there is No reason to assume there aren't mental (Intelligence/behavioral) adaptations among them. It would only be logical. ".. there is No firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." - James Watson, co-Nobel Winner for Discovering DNA As far as "spending so much time on the subject", a simple google search will show WHO is the all time Race-Posting champ. And Race Denial is tantamount to Evolution denial: claiming it stopped 200,000 years ago, and only cognitively/behaviorally, no less. Topical obsession is NOT limited to one side and one motivation. ` EDIT to below: OH NO! More Joseph Graves/Race-denial SPAMMING! (as in your attempted agree-with-me correspondence posting earlier) Replete with the SAME Youtube You've used HUNDREDS of Times (#136 here) and probably the SAME citation I've seen 100 times. You cannot/Have Not/Never debated Race without Graves. Period. While I can use logic and 100 varying sources. Indeed, the various Race Realist posters have used too many sources/graphs/charts in this string alone to count. In fact, virtually All the quantification/numbers/Charts on IQ, measures of genetic distance, etc have been on the Race Realism side.. with basically just apologetics on the other. These Obsessive and Pavlovian Link Dumps/Fall-Backs/Answers-to-anything/Scriptural-like citations by some self-interested professor at a Black College (NC-A&T), are NONRESPONSIVE to my simple points of Logic in your posts/posting. (And hardly James Watson either!) Just the usual Bury-em with text/Graves nonsense. You did NOT answer my pointing out that your definition of 'Racism' is only mental/cognitive difference, and that Obsessive focus on the topic is NOT only from One side or Motivation. On the contrary, one sides Motivation may be personal defense/Self-Bias/'My-Race' support, rather than intellectual, or 'other-tribe racism.' +

Bering Strait replies: YOUR Link: "...The most comprehensive study of chimpanzees to date—including multiple loci and samples from western, central, and eastern chimpanzees and bonobos—found few fixed genetic differences among chimpanzee populations and estimated autosomal FST values between populations of 0.09–0.32, Overlapping the range of differentiation seen in humans.".." So your claim is a Complete MISrepresentation of the study and the Facts. We/Our subspecies have about the Same genetic distance as Chimps do! Are there Sanctions for this kind of scandalous posting? ANOTHER: (and also "Overlapping" with Chimps) Is Homo sapiens polytypic? Human taxonomic diversity and its implications Michael A. Woodley School of Biological Sciences, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham, Surrey, UK https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.w...plications.pdf ...Based on Table 2, it is evident that the ‘H. sapiens as monotypic species’ theory is INconsistent with the way in which taxonomic classification has been employed for other species exhibiting similar degrees of heterozygosity. Chimpanzees for example exhibit very similar degrees of observed heterozygosity to humans (0.63–0.73 vs. 0.588–0.807) yet have been divided into Four subspecies. Some species such as the grey wolf actually exhibit Lower levels of observed heterozygosity than humans (0.528 vs. 0.588– 0.807) yet have been divided into as many as 37 subspecies. When measures of Genetic distance are used such as Wright’s FsT, which describes the fraction of the variation attributable to population subdivision, values indicative of Great Levels of Genetic Differentiation have been obtained for Humans (0.156) based on the analysis of autosomal loci [39] (great levels of genetic differentiation correspond to values of between 0.15 and 0.25 [40]). This contrasts with scores indicative of little to moderate levels of genetic differentiation in other animals (again obtained by looking at autosomal loci), such as the Canadian lynx (0.033) [28], which is recognized as having three subspecies, and the African buffalo(0.059) [24], which is recognized as having five subspecies."..." - and of course, NO ANSWER to the rest/essence of my post: Refutation of the common but Mind blowing proposition (from at least Two posters) that just because a specie 'originated' in a common place, it can't have subspecies! -

1. "All humans originated from Africa....?" Is really the only question that needs be answered. (for you and Moontanman) YES! Of Course, All Gorillas and Chimps not only originated in Africa, but are STILL there in a Small portion of Central West Africa. And Gorillas have TWO separate SPECIES, and 6 or 7 subspecies/Races Chimps have TWO separate SPECIES and 4 subspecies/Races. So Chimps etc aren't "just chimps" either! Range of ALL the different Gorillas AND Chimpanzee Species/Subspecies: There is a complete and stunning Lack of knowledge/frame of reference for most here! And I might add, the Human subspecies/Races were obviously subject to/Forced by much Greater selective pressures due to Much More Diverse environments those other two primates who are STILL just in a small jungled portion of Africa! To even ask the question/pose the idea, one was to be Unaware that not only all chimps/gorillas have designation/delimitation, but virtually ALL other species have subspecies. So it's a fast GAMEOVER (and free edu) for all of you that believe because we 'originated in Africa' we can't have subspecies!!! -

There is 100 YEARS of "consistent Pattern." :^) Except that also is NOT true. Just because Races/subspecies can be further divided/grouped, doesn't mean Anyone claims they are "the same." Aforementioned Lynn ALWAYS separated the two (or 3 or 4!) in his Race/IQ studies. A Chart from his book: Race Differences in Intelligence (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Race ------------------------------------- Mean I.Q -- Mean brain size (cc) East-Asians (China, Taïwan, Japan, Korea) 105 --------- 1416 Europeans -----------------------------------100 ----------1369 South-East Asians ----------------------------90 ----------1332 Pacific Islanders ------------------------------85---- ------1317 South Asians and North africans-------------84 ---------- 1293 Africans----------------------------------------67 ----------1282 Australian aborigines ------------------------ 62 ----------1225 (tho I see they've taken the nasty chart out, just as PC Wiki has obliterated the many charts from it's general Race/IQ page So seen here. It was derived from chart 16.2 in the book, which includes other info as well as Brain size. https://pumpkinperson.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/photo-3-e1419180314970.jpg ) You are welcome to use Jensen or Rushton if you like.. and then Bash them.. too. For anyone who studies, and mentions this topic in all but denialist terms, is Smeared with the usual non-scientific PC nonsense. The 1996 APA statement not only acknowledged there WAS a difference (oops EGjay!), but said it Could NOT be accounted for by socio-economic factors. Leaving Genes about the only answer.. but they didn't/couldn't say that. More on Expertise: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence .......... Opinion of experts in 1987 The 1987 "Survey of Expert Opinion on Intelligence and Aptitude Testing" was published in American Psychologist (the official journal of the American Psychological Association). It surveyed 1020 IQ experts 661 of which completed the questionnaire. One question was "Which of the following best characterizes your opinion of the heritability of black-white differences in IQ?"[7] 14% declined to answer the question. 24% voted that there was insufficient evidence to give an answer. 1% voted that the gap was "due entirely to genetic variation". 15% voted that it "due entirely to environmental variation". 45% voted that it was a "product of genetic and environmental variation".[7] The survey formed one part of the 1988 book The IQ Controversy, the Media and Public Policy which argued that the public was misled regarding the expert opinion on the issue.[8] Opinion of experts in 2013 In 2013 a similar survey was presented. Researchers were invited to participate only if they had recent intelligence-related publications in peer-reviewed journals. Invitations were emailed to 1237 persons and at the end 228 (18%) completed the process (70 fully and 158 partially). As far as the authors could make it out, “lefties” and “righties” turned down the offer in equal numbers.[28] Asked: What is the influence of average cognitive ability level and highly cognitive competent persons on positive development of society, the economy, technology, democracy and culture? All of the results were above the mid point, suggesting agreement about a positive relationship between high intelligence and social progress.[28] Asked: What are the sources of U.S. black-white differences in IQ? 0% of differences due to genes: 17% 0-40% of differences due to genes: 42% 50% of differences due to genes: 18% 60-100% of differences due to genes: 39% 100% of differences due to genes: 5% On average for all experts, 47% of the difference was due to genes (SD=31%).[28] Perhaps only restrained frrom being Much Higher Genetically by PC. And of course, IQ is 75% Heritable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Estimates So it would be quite illogical if it wasn't highly so among groups as well. WOW. The format here is the most 'eccentric' I've ever seen, and I've see a few hundred. Terrible. Forgive this post. I tried to edit: bold, and 'EGjay' it, to make it clearer