[granadina]

Something that is taken for granted , is a projection of the Nervous System - Proprioception .

How fragile and ephemeral this can be , when a slight impairment could turn you into a ' Disembodied ' person .

(One is unable to notice something because it is always before one's eyes.)

A Case Study -
"The Disembodied Lady," a chapter from neurologist Oliver Sacks book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat" about a patient who lost her sense of proprioception.


Looking forward to more views ..

[Greg Boyles]

granadina, on 18 October 2011 - 06:02 PM, said:

Something that is taken for granted , is a projection of the Nervous System - Proprioception .

How fragile and ephemeral this can be , when a slight impairment could turn you into a ' Disembodied ' person .

(One is unable to notice something because it is always before one's eyes.)

A Case Study -
"The Disembodied Lady," a chapter from neurologist Oliver Sacks book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat" about a patient who lost her sense of proprioception.


Looking forward to more views ..

I was watching a doco on this quite recently.


A genuine out of body experience was induced by placing virtual reality goggles on the subject and mounting the camera that feeds the goggles on the head of the scientist.

The scientist then shook hands with the subject wearing the goggles who had the irresistable sensation that his 'self' was located in the scientist who was doing the hand shaking.

The point is that there are explantions for out of body experiences that don't involve the 'soul' physically leaving the body in the theological sense.

[granadina]

Greg Boyles, on 20 October 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

I was watching a doco on this quite recently.


A genuine out of body experience was induced by placing virtual reality goggles on the subject and mounting the camera that feeds the goggles on the head of the scientist.

The scientist then shook hands with the subject wearing the goggles who had the irresistable sensation that his 'self' was located in the scientist who was doing the hand shaking.

The point is that there are explantions for out of body experiences that don't involve the 'soul' physically leaving the body in the theological sense.

Like wise , what happens in the case of Multiple Personality Disorder !

Your uniquely personal sense of ' self ' is instantly ' replaced ' by an alternate personality .
The new personality ' takes control of the individual behaviour with an associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness . '

Words like Identity , Individuality .. appear so flimsy and mere contingencies , when you look at the
complexities of the system that gives rise to these words .

There's reason to believe that the ' Theological sense ' only serves to imbue the humans with an
exaggerated sense of importance which they certainly don't deserve .

[Greg Boyles]

granadina, on 20 October 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

Like wise , what happens in the case of Multiple Personality Disorder !

Your uniquely personal sense of ' self ' is instantly ' replaced ' by an alternate personality .
The new personality ' takes control of the individual behaviour with an associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness . '

Words like Identity , Individuality .. appear so flimsy and mere contingencies , when you look at the
complexities of the system that gives rise to these words .

There's reason to believe that the ' Theological sense ' only serves to imbue the humans with an
exaggerated sense of importance which they certainly don't deserve .

With split brain patients, there seems to be two independant personalities associated with each of the two hemispheres.

Well I reckon the 'self that calls itself Greg and lives inside this skull is pretty important and special, but not in a theological sense.

I find it truly awe inspiring that the cosmos has acheived sophisticated consciousness, that can question its own existence and that of the cosmos, through us.

[PhDwannabe]

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With split brain patients, there seems to be two independant personalities associated with each of the two hemispheres.

Split-brain studies show fascinating things about the hemispherical independence of certain cognitive and perceptual functions. There is no reliable evidence of "personality differences" between split hemispheres. If you think you have some, show it to me: peer reviewed; something from Gazzaniga or Sperry or something that cites either one of them (there's no serious neuroscience on the topic that would leave out their work). That would be exceedingly difficult to demonstrate even if it were true, since we assess personality essentially through verbal means, and only one of the hemispheres can actually "talk" to you.

[granadina]

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I find it truly awe inspiring that the cosmos has acheived sophisticated consciousness, that can question its own existence and that of the cosmos, through us

Words have their limitations .
Can ' language ' question itself , through language ?

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since we assess personality essentially through verbal means

And the words we use to describe personality are not ' empirical results ' .

[granadina]

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since we assess personality essentially through verbal means, and only one of the hemispheres can actually "talk" to you.

Do you imply the Left hemisphere , as responsible for the verbal means ?


Doesn't emotional component in language incorporate the use of Right hemisphere too ?