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Hahahaha. That is ironic, I should have pointed it out. It's near the surface of the Earth so it's all the same. (BTW: I'm not saying I don't absolutely despise this system, and I'm not defending it in any way, shape, or form. I just want to make that abundantly clear. This system is actually on my hitlist.)

That's somewhere with very little gravity. A slug's mass here on Earth is actually about 32.2 pounds, and we all know there the 32.2 comes from. (g) 1lb*(g=32.2ft/(s*s)) = 1 slug = 32.2 lbs

Um... Who said it's over? Wait til tomorrow, this may even have more to do with strategy than peace.

There are pounds-weight and pounds-mass, which is one and the same near the surface of the earth and then changed when necessary by adapting the pounds mass to new accelaration due to gravity of whatever body is pulling on it. So, long story short, both kilograms and pounds mean weight in common usage. But mass and weight are entirely different things. Mass, the amount of matter that a body has, doesn't change, weight does depending on how gravity influences that body.

What is the success of the creationism/ID movement anywhere it has success if not political? What else could it possibly be based on? Certainly not scientific or even philosophical validity.

No no. I was making the point that you are not immuned to creationism infiltration, and which is clearly evident in the UK's involvement in the worst policy move in US history. It's pretty obvious that logic doesn't prevail when we set the trend, especially in the UK. I wasn't trying to be "circuitous", Sayonara. I thought you'd get it as soon as I made the hint.

Okay, Cap'n you've got me concerned I missed something here. Is there some sort of dispute here that homosexuality does not have a biological basis (though of course just like anything, environmental factors do play a role as well)? That some how you can "de-gay" a gay man through education or other measures?

I always learned the metric system in school, even as a little kid. I started learning about it in first grade, but then everyday usage of the other system made that education of that system look more like a simple nuisance. I don't know why we don't use it everyday. Now, I love the metric system and I think metrically. It makes so much sense. Let's just start using the metric system. It'll catch on, no worries.

No, I'm not. This is the right thread. You're from the UK right? Think about how serious a problem it is for you if we don't solve it here. Creationism is on its way out anyway. I feel a scientific renaissance on the horizon as a result of this idiocy.

Thanks for supporting us in the war in Iraq. I mean that, sincerely. (hmmm hmmm)

Aren't you the Death 2 Creationism guy?

Looks like it runs in the family. I'm wondering how the moral majority feels about this. I'm sure they'll be sending a representatitve soon. Sounds to me like the guy is just too charming for his own good.

Fernandez is an "amateur." He uses the same tired nonsense, but shows he has not yet memorized the party line, which is evident at many instances, especially when he botches Behe's botched argument and left the door open for the more rational viewers to see just how ridiculous the whole thing is.