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Na2S2O8 + Al no reaction :(

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Got a kg of sodium persulfate recently, which although expensive was an easier oxidizer to find (at an electronics store) then any nitrate or chlorate or perchlorate...

 

It was quite interesting, when put on a piece of paper, it made that paper burn extremely bright...(it decomposes below 451 F)

 

But what I really bought it for was trying to make a violent reaction with powdered aluminum....

 

This should have worked perfectly- the principal decomposition of persulfate is to donate a sulfate radical:

 

Na2S2O8 + Al > Na2SO4 + Al2(SO4)3

 

Of course in the heat of this reaction and excess aluminum, the sulfates should decompose into sulfides and oxygen, making the overall reaction

 

3Na2S2O8 + 18Al > 3Na2S + Al2S3 + 8Al2O3 + 9747 kj...

 

about twice as energetic as thermite by weight...

 

but after mixing sodium persulfate and aluminum in a 2:1 ratio by weight, which i was afraid was going to explode, did not ignite with a blowtorch (it should ignite much easier then thermite)... It almost looked like the aluminum started to melt or something...

 

oh yeah and theres no point to this thread...

 

I know aluminum can be oxidized by a nitrate, which makes me surprised that a persulfate could not do the job...

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yes thats why aluminum is so reactive yet corrosion proof...

but it somehow works in thermite compositions, i think ist either because its powdered or al gets vaporized...

 

But its alright i'll just have to try it again sometime

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