You're a fine one to talk about diversions when it's the entire purpose of your argument, splitting hairs over the definition of "liberal"! You keep saying that I haven't proven that he's a social liberal, and yet that's exactly what I did in pointing out that he's recreated their welfare state. You call that exclusively economic, I say that's bogus -- there's a social design component to welfare. You say tomayto, I say tomahto.

 

Some liberals are supporting Chavez, big deal.

 

End of discussion, right there. You even get the last word. Bravo.

I can't wait to hear what all the Hollywood types who've been to visit Chavez think of all this. According to Bill O'Reilly, more Hollywood stars have been to visit Hugo Chavez than have been to visit the troops in Afghanistan. Take that, Sean Penn, you freaking moron.[/

 

Can you blame them!? Afghanistan is dangerous!

 

Oh, and I'd call Chavez a socialist rather than a liberal (wtf does that really mean anyway?)

 

Chavez is great! Long may he rein.

Oh, and I'd call Chavez a socialist rather than a liberal (wtf does that really mean anyway?)

 

It has about the same meaning as "conservative".