AdrianB

Just to give you an update on John Searls S.E.G.....

SEG research with the above test units has proven that not only can the roller develop an effective Magnetic Bearing over the plate surface, but also simultaneously it achieves dramatic spin velocities from self induced frictionless magnetic torque.

 

This image shows a mock roller spinning with a tachometer reading 14449 rpm! These observable demonstrations is further evidence of the SEG's merit in both design and electrodynamic functions; indeed, it is another integral part of the SEG we can now confirm and evaluate.

 

Now we can bare witness as a matter of FACT, a Neodymium magnet sized to that of an SEG roller, can be seen magnetically suspended and floats about 1/8 inch above the surface of a rotating copper stator ring with just 110 rpm. These tests demonstrate the interaction of self induced eddy currents due to the relative motion between plate stator and roller.

 

Important research data is thus gained, tests that will determine what are the material's design criteria's that will be applied towards an economical manufacturing type version of the SEG.

 

After almost a year of construction, initial tests of the SEG Printer Magnetizer (PM) confirms the system is operational and performing well with test coil loads. This marks the start of the next phase which involves extensive research & development of the magnetization process. We have already discovered that this system can impress wave patterns on permanent magnetic materials; a critical achievement towards redevelopment of Searl Effect Generator.

 

With 80 of these industrial high capacity UPS batteries now rack mounted and the nearing completion of all electrical subsystems, it is anticipated that some preliminary testing may begin this month.

Not bad work eh!

(not looking to start this all off again but thought it would be nice for others to see the work put into the S.E.G)

edited to add this media found of a presentation of John Searl....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909&ei=yo_hSs6tMqb22gKx5Zz1DA&q=john+searl+presentation#

Filmed in 1994 at the IFNE Conference in Denver, this hour-long presentation by John Searl describes the inner-workings of the infamous Searl-Effect Generator and IGV Propulsion System with photos, schematics, construction details, and a concise summary of 1960's testing that you simply can't afford to miss! John Searl is one of the most controversial figures in Antigravity research, but since beginning his work in the 1940's, he's arguably become "the father of modern Antigravity". His claim is simple: that after a childhood dream showing a rotating set of rollers on a metallic ring, he constructed a device called the Searl Effect Generator (SEG) that seems to produce massive Antigravitational thrust. Searl is one of the cultural icons in the Antigravity

I will shut up and never hassle you again, sorry for the inconvenience.

I just wanted to make this open source really, maybe one day someone could take the idea and make something different.

If its wrong or right it makes no difference to my life.

Have fun all

This

"As your "theory" can't be right (Venus completely disproves it), then any conclusions you reach because of it (like free energy must exist) is therfore also wrong." isn't strictly accurate.

 

I could reach a correct conclusion even if I used the wrong theory.

It would just be an accident.

However, in this case, Adrian B is just talking complete nonsense and, as it happens, he is wrong.

how many times can one person say "You are wrong" in one thread.

Venus

Mass 4.868 5 × 1024 kg

Surface area 4.60 × 108 km²

Orbital period 224.700 69 day

Average orbital speed 35.02 km/s

Surface temp.

Kelvin

Celsius min mean max

735 K[1][6][7]

461.85 °C

Venus has totaly different mass variations, which of course means different magnetic behaviour.

Hey! I know, I know nack all about anything, I am just enjoying the conversation, it is fun, Sorry if you all feel the need to get uptight and start insulting me.

It doesnt matter though does it! really, I mean even if I could afford to prove free energy exsist, it would be no good anyway would it.

No one really wants free energy, as it doesnt pay, does it.

So chill, have a laugh at me, its ok. No one is really listening to me or reading this "nonsense".

Gravity pulls, and has nothing to do with spinning... Explain how some planets spin faster yet have smaller fields than the slow spinning ones?

The faster a mass is spinning the greater the Electromagnetic field is, if a mass is spinning at such a speed then the EM field becomes unstable, as the mass is trying to emit a greater field then its mass velocity can handle.

So it bursts, like a bubble only not with the same effect, (rips and tears apear then it just evaporates, untill the mass slowed down to a point where a new field can be produced.)

Also quiet possibly, a mass could spin at such a speed it would create a second heavier field from within. (a bit like a ripple effect)

Gravity does not push

Gravity pushes inwards in on the planet. it does pull down but as the a mass increases its spin, it does force inwards on the mass, forcing the EM field properties to push outwards.

Iron and a lot of other elements. Its this iron that causes the EM field, not gravity.

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And it is the spin from the planet that forces the gravity to push the EM outwards.

Is the planet not made of iron ?

Does this not create a charge at velocity or would this not create an electromagnetic field at high spin ?

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You cannot produce oxygen out of nothing, nor any other element.

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Does a lightening storm not create oxygen from the static bursts between evaporated water and preasure.

 

"The air does feel cleaner after a good storm"

you all speak out gravity and electromagnetism as if they are two seperate things...

For you to have gravity on a planet you have to have an electromagneticly charged atmosphere.

For you to have electromagnetism you have to have motion and gravity.

The faster a planet spins the more energy is created, the higher the static charge is on the surface, the greater the static charge, the greater the gravitational pull is on the planet, as more oxygen is produced, the greater the preasure is within the atmosphere.

Free energy is everywhere, we live in an electricaly static charged atmosphere.

This is how I know free energy can be produced.

Gravity and electromagnetism work hand in hand with each other.

That still does not mean it is free. Increasing the drag WILL result in lowering orbit speeds.

May I ask why dont are planets fall out of our solar system.

They are trapped in the suns field of electromagnetism, pulsed in and out through the flux of the suns field outside the solar system.

Proof, and real one this time. I can scream that the world is gonna explode tomorrow, but it isn't going to happen just because I'm yelling it will

Our Galaxy should be proof enough to you.

The earth orbits the sun at high velocity, it is not a perfect circle it is squashed, the earth is spinning at such speed it has its own....

Ion Electromagnetic gravitational field emitting from within to fold outwards this creates what we know as our atmosphere, This protects our sorry arses from been burnt from the suns rays.

The moon is trapped in our orbit spinning off axle, so it is constantly moving back and forth in and out of the planet.

This creates the atmosphere to shift within the planets field, with this shift is also the shift in heat and temperature across the surface, this creates static in the already charged atmosphere, resulting in lightening storms.

So the interaction between two spheres can create electricity.

The movement or shift of electromagnetic fields within fields creates electricity.

The motion of many rings spinning around few is the same replication of our solar system, the electromagnetic gravitation orbit that each planet is spinning on is the same as SEG searls design but compressed with many planets.

"Free Energy is everywhere"

No it's not. Just because you keep saying it doesn't mean it's true.

Just because you keep denying it doesnt mean it will go away.

Yes free energy is everywhere mate.

I can also increase the length of the concord while its speed is 0; heat it up. Which is exactly what happened at those high speed: heat induced by friction.

The magnetic field that is in flux around the mass would stop the interaction of outside laws regarding gravity and heat issue.

As it would create its own electromagnetic gravitational field, from which it will have its own gravitational laws from within.

All outside influences would have no interfearance with the traveling mass.

If the anti-gravity mechanism is a support structure, then it obviously works And we want real proof, scientific papers. Not some dodgy PDFs which completely dance around the subject instead of discussing it in-depth.

If a mass is stationary when traveling through space, it will create drag and will have a limited amount of forward motion.

If a mass is spinning whilst in motion of going forward, then its electromagnetic field is changed and the mass has its weight value changed.

This would enable the mass to accelrate faster then the stationary mass.

If the mass is classed as a solid object then it will create more drag and become slow.

If we accept that solid mass does in fact change shape at high speeds

(the concord increased in length at high speed) then we can theorise that indeed mass can infact accelerate upto the speed of light. If in a motion where the electromagnetic field can be changed.

e=mc2 is right but if you include the notion of the electromagnetic field of all mass's and the fact it can be in a state of flux whilst in motion, then a mass can travel/move in different ways and faster then the internal combustion engine as it is not having to deal with weight of the mass.

Trolling has nothing to do with who started the thread, AdrianB.

I am just replying to this thread, I am trying to be as amicable and polite as I possibly can.

If people throw insults, chastis and start discriminating and categorizing others about their ideas, why is wrong to throw it back.

I am not trolling.

you're obviously just trolling, so i'm outta here.

goodbye, thank you for your help.

"You know some would say that with this been the thread that I started, it is you who would be classed as trolling"

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Empirical Equation Relating Electromagnetism and Gravity in terms of

Electromagnetic Waves, Fields and Particles

http://www.groupkos.com/docs/russell_montgomery/Empirical_Equation_Relating_Electromagnetism_and_Gravity_in_terms_of_Electromagnetic_Waves-1.pdf

Dimensional/Gravitational Symmetrical Model for Particles and Gravity in terms of

Electrodynamics

http://www.groupkos.com/docs/russell_montgomery/Optimistically_we_have_derived_a_quantized_expression_between_electromagnetism_1b.pdf

About strange effects related to

rotating magnetic systems

http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/pitkanen.pdf

not seeing any evidence here.

Really!!!!!!

ha ha ha ha

http://www.searlsolution.com/members/documents/STbook18E.pdf

oh i read plenty of sci-fi, i just know how to keep it seperate from reality.

 

his theory is just handwavium. there's no maths there's no evidence and experiments on exactly this sort of thing have never shown anything like this. he's talking out of an orifice that clearly isn't his mouth.

One of many town hall meetings of concerned citizens in fear of the "Warminster Thing"; to correct this video clip the year was 1965 not 1945.

 

(courtesy of BlackCloud)

Among the many creditable witnesses sighting the IGV were this two british policeman in this video clip interviewed Oct, 1967.

 

The policemen sketches the IGV's outline accurately along with the vertical columns of light above and below the axis of the disc of trapped and compressed air due to the double toroidal field; photon emitting gas made it appear as a bright cross in the night's sky.

 

(courtesy of BlackCloud)

 

A pictorial video of the IGV Development during the 1960s and 1970s.

These images was recorded by the BBC News and by the Newspapers. The BBC ran a weekly piece on John Searl's work and progress for almost a year. These Television broadcasts showed the IGV in flight and gave updates on the work being done to build a large craft. There were articles and pictures in the Sunday Mirror on November 28'th 1971, Derby shire District and The Hants and Berks Gazette in 1969. There were pictures taken by John Hocknell Press Photographer which accompanied press write up by Phil Sanders on July 4'th 1969. There were many pictures and write-ups done on John Searl during these times.

 

And if Prof John Searl flew over you in one, landed and ran over to you, happy slapped you in the face.

I bet you just say "that never happend, I saw nothing!"

stop reading sci-fi, the guys is a fraud. let it go.

Never!

The theory goes that when a mass is at high velocity, its electromagnetism field changes, if you have two mass's with there electromagnetism fields connected, then they will be locked with each other.

(the moon is locked into our orbit)

This is how the SEG can move the smaller rings around the larger one without them causing friction.

The Inverse Gravity Vehicle, works on the theory that if you have an external motion of mass, spinning faster then the present mass it is sat on.

The smaller spinning mass will move away from the larger one, due to the change in the electromagnetic fields, as the smaller mass's spin increases.

using the earths own electromagnetic fields to create lift.

Maybe you should start reading some Sci-fi

How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go......?

http://www.searlsolution.com/technology3.html

Inverse Gravity Vehicle (IGV)

The Inverse Gravity Vehicle is a craft designed to take full advantage of the SEG's unexpected propensity to lift and defy the force of gravity.

 

The IGV is structurally designed to support and integrate a very large

 

and powerful scaled up version of the SEG within a suitable flight controlled frame in the form of a slender disc. This is a shape ideally suited for the emissions of the high-speed electrical charges from the rim’s edge to the atmosphere and back to the relatively positively charged central dome.

 

High levels electron charge accumulations envelops it in a cold vacuum and surrounds it with a hazy colored glow of charged plasma.

 

These charged gases emit photon light due to the high-speed electron emissions that interacts and releases a great many more free electrons out of the atmosphere due to the the air's cascading effects.

 

In this manner, electrons in great abundance are recycled through the IGV which effectively provides the means to absorb external energy from the surrounding environment as an open system of energy conversion. External charges are attracted and collected by surfaces of the center section of the craft that conducts them to the input of a large diameter SEG located inside and near the rim of the craft. Therein, electrons are compressed or condensed into tunneling pairs that increasingly accelerate through the three stages of the six layered high performance SEG. Then finally, the boson type charges are emitted at near light speeds out of the frame's peripheral edges or points.

 

Past a certain point, the apparatus achieves material superconductivity at temperatures near absolute zero. This incidentally creates a powerful gravitomagnetic or inverse gravitational force and concurrently an inversion of inertia; it appears these two forces are interrelated like two sides of a coin, thus overturning one force effects the other.

 

These profound effects manifest when the SEG is electrically overloaded to the atmosphere, driving it into a superconductive state that enables an immense increase in its capacity to convert external sources of ambient energy into coherent forces of extremely high levels of electrical power.

 

The IGV technology shatters the common presumption that gravity and inertia are immutable forces; instead, it tends to confirm super symmetric theories of nature's forces. This is the basis of the levity discs that John Searl built and demonstrated so successfully during the 1960s and 1970s.

 

After about 20 years developing it in secret, John Searl's levity discs (IGV) finally managed to take controlled flights with an innovative 64 cell switching relay system that made it agile and maneuverable.

 

They were typically radio remote controlled by a small network of ham radio operators using signals bounced off the moon (EME). These test flights typically took place during the early morning nights at altitudes of about 2000ft emerging out of isolated fields.

 

However, these flights did not go unnoticed, thousands of witnesses reported hearing or seeing what they called the "Warminster Thing". Residential homes within the IGV's routes were incidentally effected by droning sounds, roof tiles rattled and waved, pigeons that got in the way dropped to the ground, unsuspecting witnesses panicked in fear and sometimes it even gave chase to passing cars; particularly targeting british police cars.

 

These so called “sighting” infact prompted many town hall meetings within the small British town of Warminster and these gatherings were filled to over capacity with frightened and alarmed town citizens,

 

who unbeknownst to them, actually witnessed test flights of the IGV.

 

This was the actual cause of the biggest and most enduring flap of sightings in UK history; undoubtedly placed this small town on the map.

 

yes, but you'll notice that no money was created in that scenario.

 

you can't get free energy.

So is Prof John Searl a fraud along with Tesla and Perendev.

These and many more great names from history are frauds because you choose to be more open minded about space then you are on earth Mr Insane Alien.

The reason why no one will ever acept the possabilities of free energy is because it doesnt provide a source for weapons and the trade of arms.

It gives them the excuse to tell you that creating energy is costly.

That disposing of the waste is costly, the world is turned around this notion, EVERYTHING.

If electric was free then no one would buy gas or oil, as everything would be electric.

The only reason a country would have to build a nuclear power station is to create weapons.

But there is far too much money involved in this wastfull world of greed.

Free Energy is everywhere, from Electromagnetics to natural resources.

it won't though, you'd still need another source of electrons. they don't just spontaneously appear.

 

i assume you are using the power plant as a signal generator, you would need another power plant to provide the power (and electron) source for the amplifier.

 

i still don't see the free energy bit. just adding more complexity and losses to a system.

You would need three sources of power

If I gave you £1 and then you gave me £10 and I walked away, I have just got £9 for free, you amplified my £1 - £10.

1/ still isn't going to work for the same reasons

 

2/ i fail to see where there is any free energy coming from this. amplifiers need a power source. (and no, feeding their output into themselves doesn't work at all.)

I never said anything about feed their output back into themselves...

I said the power stations feed the initial energy into the Surge Effect Electric Generator.

It is a way to increase an already provided current, (that is if it isnt already been used)

you still aren't going to get high amps at high voltage.

 

you'll have high amps at low voltage with intermittent bursts of high voltage with low amps

Grandted if the two were merged together instantly after amplification.

By the time though the voltage and the amp is collected it would be constant and manipulated to provide the required burst.

you're not very good at thinking things through are you? the current amplifier would be over powered by the voltage amplifier as the voltage is greater from the voltage amplifier(surprise surprise).

 

really, go learn some physics.

The voltage amplifier would only require a short burst, probably enough to allow the current amplifier to trip the votage to shut off then start the whole process of charging the voltage amplifier again.

... which in turn uses a differential in voltage. More amps results in less voltage.

So the two trying to power each other, would be pointless ?

But the two powerd side by side running on parallel syncronised system would coexist.