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Nonsense! I have used two months of my free time to create underlying theory and bunch of experiments. I have to ease my pace now due to other commitments. But I have the blueprint for my ether proving experiment done and few preliminary tests executed. Now I need some additional material and more time to finish. The result is already in my knowledge and there is the ether.

Can I participate?

Why wouldn't we observe aberration? Is this hand waving or word salad? We are not moving _through_ the ether, we are moving with the ether.

After I reveal my experiment you will bang your head against a wall, just because the experiment is so obvious and simple Too bad, I have my other commitments which slow me down a bit.

I'm not requiring patent for the ether itself but for an application based on ether. My application based on ether also verifies that there is ether otherwise it wouldn't work.

I have blueprint for setup which demonstrates ether. I can't reveal it yet because patent application rules. But finally we can stop arguing whether there is ether or not Wait couple of day...

What stellar aberration has to do with ether? We observe stellar aberration because we are moving.

No I'm not.

That's the exact reason for speed of light being constant, I totally agree!

I disagree. I think all forces are due to same phenomenon but in different scale.

Well, there was a time when human race didn't detect that Earth is a sphere I wouldn't count on that we have detected all relevant in Universe.

Why dimension? Why gravitation should be dimension, is strong interaction dimension? I would look answer by searching mechanism which would be common to all forces.

Absolutely! The key can be found behind the gravity.

Why you are so in love with dimensions? Why don't you look simpler solution to gravitation? Science should follow Occam's razor.

Maybe a little, but those phrases are inspirational. Well, It seems that this topic got all the (current scientific) information available related to force carrier mechanisms, so its all about fields We'll see...

Could you write some kind of paper (with pictures) of your ideas? It's quite hard to crasp the true idea behind these short posts. I'm more than willing to read that paper

I did small experiment with two electric motors and metal axle. With 6 volts, I got around 10 000 rpm. Axle is very smooth surfaced and there wasn't much of air flow. What force is used? Rock movement is very clear many times. Freezer magnet doesn't react to that rock, so it can't be magnetism. Video -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u9B_POI1hU&feature=youtu.be

I do understand field theory. I want to go beyond field theory.

Mechanism you described is noted. How in your idea, do you describe double slit experiments? Especially case when photon is passed the slit already and then another slit is covered and this causes interference pattern fail. This one is super nice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser What is wave velocity anyway? What is maximum speed for delivering information? Examples above needs faster than light speed.

Well, I ain't satisfied with interpretation, I want the mechanism. I have my version of it (interpretation), but I want to know for sure. One way to do it, is by explaining everything with my interpretation. So far so good.

I agree. Maybe in future there will be an experiment which can give the final answer. I just wonder how massless particle could do anything to electron? but that's just me

Good solid answers, thank you. I agree that theories are mathematical and should be ( I have masters in math), I'm pro math. What is specially interesting, is the mechanism, the essence, behind all math, naked nature so to speak. I have this same topic active in Finnish science forum (tiede.fi) and here. It's interesting to see how "deep" each thread is digging in

Photon mass is an open issue. Here is one upper limit for it -> http://ggg.hust.edu.cn/upload/1201102181443142003%20PRL%20New%20experimental%20limit%20on%20the%20photon%20rest%20mass%20with%20a%20rotating%20torsion%20balance.pdf

Limited in many ways. Gravitation can't be explained with it. Still the mechanism is open question with gauge fields. Quantum theories are at the wrong side of curtain, only shadows are visible and therefore theories are abstract. Science should take a look to the other side. There is the mechanism AND it's applies to ALL forces. Why Occam's razor doesn't apply these days in science? Wave function crashes and electrons taking a trip around Moon is biggest hand waving ever aaa... the question. What is the actual physical mechanism with force carriers?

I know that. I'm trying to say that the idea itself is fine, Bohr model is not. There is too much legacy weight with that model, for example concept of charge. But lets stick with the topic.