shelby

I assume this thread is allowing speculative responses, because love is an abstract concept.

In addition to the mating motivation theories, there is a speculative divine possibility.

I have suggested that God is the sum of all matter, which works within my universal theory. God didn't create itself, it never existed at the origin in the sense of the perceived world, because matter (note I didn't write 'mass') does not exist in space-time until it is observed. We create God every day in the perceived world. One plausible explanation of why we are created out of matter, because it is the only way God (sum of all matter) can be perceived (loved?).

My research has added support to the theory that the fundamental matter of the universe is infinite disorder, meaning infinite possibilities[1]. There is nothing outside, because there is no outside. Infinite possibilities includes everything, and explains how the universe wraps onto itself topologically via possibilities, such that the perceived possibilities are always trending to maximum (Second Law of Thermodynamics stated in 1856). Do not think of boundaries in terms of space-time, as space and time are subsets of the realm of infinite possibilities. Review my explanation of the singularity, i.e. black hole, to grasp the how disorder maps space-time back onto itself recursively.

Thus, if my universal theory is true, then it logically follows that the definition of God that I have provided is true, i.e. no assumptions exist since my definition of God is simply a statement of my universal theory.

As to how the matter got there, no human can know, because it is logically impossible for any one to present any theory for the universe, which also explains what it outside the universe. Any theory of the universe will by definition explain only what it explains, i.e. it will only explain what is inclusive of what it explains. The fact that no human can ever know what put the matter there, is for me the proof of a God. How can something be, that was not made. What besides a God could make infinite disorder.

Science is headed for major humbling as the Quantum Information theory is generalized with my Theory of the Universe[1], and scientists are one day forced to accept that they can never know the source of the fundamental matter. Those who ridicule my concept of God or otherwise turn off to my following rational thought, do not understand that the scientific method is a faith that long or fat-tail and Planck's-tail don't exist. At least my universal theory has no such holes and explains the entire extent of the universe. I can find no other theory that does. Even Planck, Einstein, Schrödinger, and Popper understood that assertion of lack of falsifiability is an ephemeral condition, which is not to discourage theoretical investigations:

http://en.wikipedia....#Religious_view

http://en.wikipedia....r.27s_objection

I think the actual number of connections at any one time is less than the number of atoms in the universe but the potential number of connections is higher than the number atoms in the universe.

 

Capacity limits of information processing in the brain. Marois R, Ivanoff J. Trends Cogn Sci. 2005 Jun;9(6):296-305.

Yup true.

The number of possible combinations though is another matter and far surpasses the number of atoms in the universe by well... a long way I'd think

I'm guessing that when people use the term "potential connections" they are referring to the amount of possible different connections that could be made. If there are 10^11 neurons and each one can make 100 connections then the total possible number of different connections is 10^13 times 10^13, which is only 10^26 and much smaller than the estimated 10^80 or so atoms in the universe.

the number of conections can not obviously be more than even the number of atoms in the brain. but if each conection can have at least two posible states to be in, say on or off, then the number of different configurations, possible combinations of on's and off's is some hugh number like 100 trilion squared or factoral or something much bigger than my brain could ever understand.

 

if each possible conection patern is concidered a "brain State" then brain states is probably what the original speaker ment to say.

A recent paper on this subject is Discovering the Capacity of Human Memory, Wang, et al, 2003, Brain and Mind, vol 4, no 2, p. 189-198.

 

The authors estimate the human brain's memory capacity at 10^8432 bits (yes, that's no typo).

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connection possibilities (unique pathways) = n! / m! * (n - m)!, where

n = number of neurons

m = average # of connections between neurons

[...]

While I agree that number of potential neural paths exist, I'm not sure 10^8432 bits of storage is possible. The brain contains very roughly 10^26 atoms. Even if you assume each atom has six degrees of freedom, and that memory bits are stored on the atomic level, that's only about 10^27 bits.

 

Is there any way to store more data than you have equivalent storage bits? Is there any conceivable way the brain could store data more densely than the atomic level? If not, it would seem that 10^27 bits, not 10^8432 bits would form the maximum theoretical upper limit on memory capacity.

 

Would appreciate any comment on this, I've tried to figure it out but I'm stumped.

BTW, the Wang "Memory Capacity" paper can be found here (PDF):

 

http://www.enel.ucal...-Vol4.2-HMC.pdf

I assume by "Memory Capacity" the aforementioned paper was trying to ascertain the Shannon-Entropy information capacity. I think they conflated concepts, which I explain in footnote [8] below.

I had to work on the answer as part of some other brain+information technology+psychology+economics (polymath) research I am doing. Please feel free to check for errors.

Untangling the Spaghetti Politics of the Dunbar Number

You should click the link above to read the [7], [8], and [9] footnotes, as they are important for full understanding.

"The brain is a network of neuron nodes and analog synapse interconnections. Like most physical networks, the interconnections in the brain are multiple intersecting multifurcating trees[7], because this yields the least energy cost per interconnection, which maximizes the number of possible interconnections, which maximizes the information capacity. Thus for any one physical brain with N neurons and m synapses per neuron the number of physical interconnections is N x m, which equals the total number of synapses[7]."

"Thus estimated quantity of synapses-neuron interconnections in the human brain is 10^14 to 5 x 10^14, and although this has an unknown information capacity[8], we can use the relative interconnection magnitude as a measure of relative information capacity."

"To increase the capacity of information beyond the natural thermodynamic limit of each individual's brain, I had the mathematical insight in 2008 that although each individual instance of the brain is multiple intersecting multifurcating trees, the quantity of synapse-neuron interconnection possibilities for all potential brains is N x m x P, where P = combinations(N,m)^N is the size of the population[9]. Note that the upper limit for human combinations(10^11,10^3) = (10^8432)[8], which is more numerous than the known quantity of atoms in universe. Assuming all these potential brain instances (individuals) could interact in ways that do not create mutual information, then the theoretical total information capacity of the mesh network of individuals would increase by P, where P is practically limited only by the number of humans. Thus the earth's current human population has an estimated relative information capacity limit of 10^14 x (7 x 10^9) = 7 x 10^23 synapse-neuron interconnections,"