infinitesolid3

im also known as gafferuk, bristol, england.

What i know is, the weight is divided in to buckets, so the length can be further, getting more energy in to this world.

With a chain pump, you are also lifting it the same height.

 

However, the way they actually do it, they don't have to lift it. They just replace it with water.

Replace what with water?

if you have a 2 mile tube, thats a lot of petrol to lift just to get a drop.

Think how fast the engine is running at.

 

the pumping system is limited by how deep we can drill and/or how much pipe you have available.

It comes down to engine size too, how big an engine can you put out to sea?

there is no way it would be more profitable than a big centrifugal pump.

true, about wear.

But can go down further to get more petrol.

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How much more profitable is the question.

Any college or university is welcome to test my design.

you may be right there, have to use steel wire, if it's profitable?

yes, motor bikes have a higly tensioned chain that is maybe a meter long, 2 meters at most and only on a ridiculous bike. motor bikes and oil wells are not comparable.

The mechanics are the same.

tryspinning a long loose chain at 100mph. just remember to stand well back aas the shrapnel will travel quite far.

a motor bike has a chain, which goes fast, it's about physics.

1/very small

2/not very fast at all

3/lots.

 

and all of these result in it bein a shitty way to bring oil up from down an oil well.

 

tell us how this is better than the centrifugal pumps currently used

you could spin it few hundrad miles per hour if you wish.

So far can only get so deep compared to engine size.

My design can go down further,

Right now a hole is drilled, say 15" wide and 5000 feet deep, and when oil is found, they put a 14" pipe down the hole. Your bucket system seems to need at least 5 times that space, and the biggest drills are only 36" wide. How are you digging down 5000 feet at 6-8 feet in diameter, what equipment would you use? And what material are you shoring up the sides with so the hole doesn't collapse?

how small can you make a bucket? how fast can you make them spin? how much petrol to drive the engine?

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use as many buckets as needed.

The smaller you make them, the less oil is brought to the surface. The faster you drive the chain, the more energy you use to bring up smallere amounts. The smaller the bucket, the easier it is to damage. The faster you make the chain go, the more easy it will be to break it. If the buckets are metal to make them strong, you risk striking rocks that may cause a spark.

 

How would you dig the hole wide enough for your system? What would you use to shore up the sides so they don't cave in? Please understand, we're not making fun of you, or trying to discourage you, we're pointing out flaws that would keep your idea from working. You have to remember, in order to switch to your system, it has to be more attractive to investors in some way, either cheaper to use, easier to use, less environmental impact, etc. It has to be better than the way it's done now.

however it is pumped, drilled ect, theres a hole going down, use buckets, its so efficient i don't believe you can see it.

It's not about whose the cleverest, it's about a cleaner world!

I believe i am true.

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It's not balanced. Empty bucket goes down, bucket full of oil comes up. Oil is not weightless. It is, in fact, less efficient than other types of pumps, but any pump has to lift the weight of what it's pumping. You can't get energy from nothing.

 

However, if you just pour water into the hole, the oil, which is lighter than water, will come to the surface, with no energy used. (Or rather, you're just using the potential energy of the weight of water decreasing in height.)

what do you do when it's full of water?

Right, i did invent the chain pump in my own mind.

Though, yes the manual chain pump has been invented. thanks for the data.

A car goes 30-40 miles per gallon.

How far can an engine drop a 1 gallon bucket and lift it up?

If you have a 2 mile pipe and you wish to suck it, you have to lift all that weight just to get a drop.

How much puch does it take to move a car?

how much weight can an engine lift?

It's about ballance. welcome to a cleaner world!

What is the advantage of a bucket over a pipe with a pump?

read all my posts.

Anyway, i might get the nobel prize for energy, enviroment and my fact on the infinitate universe.

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Oil wells are usually drilled down using heavy boring bits to get through the rock to the oil. These can be 5" to 36" in diameter, and then a smaller pipe is run through the hole. Your bucket system would require an enormous hole to be dug to make room for your bucket system. You would use more energy, you couldn't go as deep without the sides caving in, and you would leave a tremendously dangerous and unsightly gouge in the earth after the oil was gone.

How small can you make a bucket? how fast can you make the buckets spin?

ok, fair enougth, i saw the picture, it's the same thing,

Everyone enjoy the petrol!!

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but its using a petrol engine.

Engine + chain pump = patant!

Where else is this used?

you obviously do not understand how oil pumping works, we pump stuff down and the oil comes up. not to mention there are a lot of oil wells where pumping isn't required at all, all you have to do is run a pipe to your refinary.

 

your not just lifting the weight of 1 gallon, you are lifting thousands of gallons every second.

 

EDIT: you still haven't demonstrated how your 'invention' is new

Sorry, that chain pump is not the same thing, give it a propper read.

if you have a 2 mile pipe using a pump, you have to lift all that weight of oil just to get 1 drop.

It's about a ballance between weight, amount of buckets, and distance.

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but it does not go 30-40 miles per gallon vertically.

Your only lifting the weight of 1 gallon, not a car.

From standstill, what the force needed to push a car?

using an engine filled with 1 gallon of petrol. Drop 1 empty bucket that can hold 1 gallon of petrol, how far down and up can it go?

A car goes 30-40 miles per gallon!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_pump <yes your idea is completely new.

 

not to mention it cannot be used on pressurized oil wells, which is to say, all of them.

 

and what about off shore wells? a little thing we like to call seas and oceans means it is unworkable.

that chain pump is not the same thing.

All i know is the world needs more energy.

we only have so much petrol left to last so many years, so every bit helps.

Water needs to be pumped.

Food needs to be delivered.

All this needs energy.

Petrol is energy, there is also solar, etc.

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If people stop trying to find my password then i can log in as infinitesolid.

so in future please only listen to me as infinitesolid. not any other.

Thank you though people for not pretending to be me as infinitesolid3,4,5,6,7,8,9

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using my invention, we can get a HUGE AMOUNT more oil, and save the enviroment too.

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Please remember how fast we can spin theres buckets with an engine.

As for pressure, any thing can be covered over as a cap.