It is a fact that the present can never be observed by means of light-based observation. Light famously travels at a finite speed, meaning light must travel a measurable distance between the observed and the observer before observation can occur. I'm not arguing with you about that. It's a fact which any person with a basic level of intelligence would almost automatically understand. What's a little more difficult, but not by much, is understanding the implications of this simple, indisputable fact. The event horizon is present. Beyond it is the future, comprised of empty space. There is nothing mysterious about this phenomenon. Anyone with a basic sense of simple facts can understand it. You can't see the present. You can't, I can't, nobody can. Vision is necessarily a reflex towards the past. I don't need to argue with you. I don't need to have a conversation. I'm right, and you know I am.