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16 minutes ago, Strange said:
Fourth time: What is the physical mechanism for this expansion? Creation of matter? A big bubble in the Earth? Or ... ?
Funny pictures
My proposal:
On that map Gakkel Ridge is underwater part from Lena river?
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2 hours ago, Strange said:
Let's try and sort out the basics.
Are you saying that:
a. the dates of these various rulers need to be changed?
b. the dates of eclipses are wrong?
If we can clarify that, maybe we can make some progress.
Hi
Answer is a
Solar eclipses is Ok. Example:Shimbar-Shipak, king of Babylon. His reign 1025-1008 BC on current chronology. His 7th regnal year was solar eclipse, this is not found from 1019 BC. It mean: Shimbar-Shipak is not reigned 1025-1008 BC. This is simple, consistent conclusion.
Same conclusion is with Esarhaddon's reign: solar eclipse is not found Tishritu month 680 BC. This solar ecplise found 19th October 704 BC, Esarhaddon reigned 704-693 BC Babylonia's king. (705-693 BC Assyria's king)
Ps. One to some detailed information from Mursili II:
Solar eclipse in the 10th regnal year of Mursili II. In the current chronology, it occurred in 1312 BC, and other alternatives to the current chronology cannot be applied. However, this is connected to some detailed information. Archaeology reports that Mursili II's predecessor, Suppiluliuma I died soon after the death of an unnamed Pharaoh. According to the current chronology, Suppiluliuma I died in 1322 BC, while Pharaoh Tutankhamun died in 1324 BC. This two-year difference in their death dates is somewhat contradictory to the archaeological discovery mentioned above.
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Ps. This is not speculations, this is research.
New observation:
Jane Sellers: The Death of Gods in Ancient Egypt, 2007, p.273:
QuoteIn 1063 BC Egypt experienced its next total eclipse. In the chpater ´Broad Hall of the Two Truths’ it has been conjectured that this eclipse over Thebes could have played a detemining role in the surprising assumption of power by Pinudjem I, a High Priest of Amun. The time was the Twenty Fisrt Dynasty, a time when Egypt was ruled by a ´dyarchy.’ Using Kitchen´s alternative chronology for this period, Smendes I was ruler in the north, and High Priest of Amun, Piankh, was succeeded by Amemnisu in 1063 BC, the year of computer predicted totality.
This can be speculation of Kenneth Kitchen. But this my new chronology's on timeline this solar eclipse can be 9th May 1112 BC or 29. April 1111 BC. Maybe is interesting to, that this my study Pinudjem I "reigned" at High Priest of Amun about 1111 BC - 1073 BC.
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The boys recommed change this topic
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Trust, this is wrong topic this subject, but maybe moderators does not accept the rest.
I am did study ancient solar eclipeses, how they fit together with ancient chronologies.
I is not can tell very large, so not to be interpreted as advertising. I want to make this thesis known, not to advertise something.
But i can part my study so a liitle bit.
- Solar ecplise 13 October 1504 BC. > This was queen Hatshepsutin's 15th regnal year.
- Solar eclipse 12 May 1384 BC > This was pharao Akhenaten's 4th regnal year.
- Solar eclipse 15 July 1360 BC > This was Mursili II, king of Hittie, 10th regnal year
- Solar eclipse 30 December 1332 BC > This was pharao Seti I's 9th regnal year.
- Solar eclipse - 30 May 1060 BC or 30 June 1052 BC > This was Shimbar-Shipak's 7th regnal year
- Solar eclipse 26 December 987 BC > This was pharao Shoshenq I.s 17th regnal year
- Solar eclipse, 2 June 911 BC > This was pharaos Osorkon II's 22nd regnal year.
- Lunar eclipse 23 February 887 Bc > This was pharao Takelot II´s 15th regnal year.
- Solar eclipse 24 April 788 BC - 13 June 809 BC > Ashur-Dan III 9th regnal year is many options.
- Lunar eclipse 1 September 739 Bc > This was Sargon II´s 6th regnal year
- Solar eclipse 19 October 704 BC > This was Esarhaddon´s first regnal year
- Solar eclipse, 10 October 695 BC > This was Esarhaddon 10th regnal year
- Solar eclipese 30 September 610 BC > This was pharao Psmatik III´s 7th regnal year ( and probable solar eclipse of Cyaxares)
King Tiglath-Pileser III reigned 770-752 BC.
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3 hours ago, Pekux said:
Solar eclipse Akhenaten's fourth year > 1352 BC
Solar eclipse II's tenth year. > 1312 BC
Solar eclipse Seti I's ninth year > 1286 BC (?)
Solar eclipse Shimbar-Sibak's seventh year > 1015 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Shoshenq I's seventeenth year > 951 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Osorkon II's the twenty-second year > not found
Lunar eclipse Takelot II's fifteenth year > 851 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Ashur-Dan III's ninth year > 763 BC
Lunar eclipse Sargon II'a about sixth year > 714 BC
Solar eclipse Esarhaddon's first year > not found
This missing one eclipse:
Solar eclipse Queen Hatshepsut's fifteenth year > 1464 BC (?)
Also this is uncertain, because Akhenaten's reign is changed start about 3 years earlier.
QuoteThus, we realise that it makes no sense to start making some minor changes to the chronology as mentioned above. Instead, the correction of chronology should start with a clean slate.
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Astronomer Aymen Ibrahem study:
http://www.oocities.org/duarta/index6.html
https://www.eclipse-chasers.com/article/history/Akhet.shtml
All thinhgs found from Google search
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3 minutes ago, Strange said:
So how is this different from the other examples of confirming dates of events by using eclipses?
Hi, I just edited my post
This my quote:
QuoteWe can see that the correction of chronology needs to emanate from an open-minded attitude, as the reign periods of kings may have to be moved a lot from their present places.
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19 hours ago, Strange said:
And? What is your point?
Solar eclipses are superior, because they can be schedule punctuality a few hours.
In this topic are listed 9 solar eclipses and 2 lunar eclipses, which have been carefully timed for a particular kings regnal year.
When all these eclipses occur in the new chronology for the years in question, the chronology is then successfully fixed.
The idea is also that the lengths of the kings reign should not be altered quite at random.
Ps. to current chronology:
Solar eclipse Akhenaten's fourth year > 1352 BC
Solar eclipse II's tenth year. > 1312 BC
Solar eclipse Seti I's ninth year > 1286 BC (?)
Solar eclipse Shimbar-Sibak's seventh year > 1015 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Shoshenq I's seventeenth year > 951 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Osorkon II's the twenty-second year > not found
Lunar eclipse Takelot II's fifteenth year > 851 BC(?)
Solar eclipse Ashur-Dan III's ninth year > 763 BC
Lunar eclipse Sargon II'a about sixth year > 714 BC
Solar eclipse Esarhaddon's first year > not found
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20 minutes ago, Strange said:
There cannot be five solar eclipses in a year.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We know people have recorded solar (and lunar eclipses). We know that, in some cases, they could also predict them. Because we can calculate the dates of the eclipses, we can use this to check the dates of ancient events.
These eclipses is some periods, example:
- Shoshenq I's seventeeth solar eclipse and Takelot II's lunar eclipse period is about 99,5 year.
- Shoshenq I's seventeeth solar eclipse and Osorkon II's twenty-second solar eclipse period is about 76 year.
- Osorkon Ii's twenty-second solar eclipse and Takelot II:n lunar eclipse period is about 23,5 year.
https://moonblink.info/Eclipse/search
Is found?
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Rarely treated Esarhaddon's first year.
Sidney Smith’s translation of the Esarhaddon chronicle in Babylonian Historical Texts (London 1924) page 14 reads:
Quote"In the month Teshri [Sept.-Oct.] the sun darkened [its] light."
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1 hour ago, Pekux said:
All of these form a single fixed period with little room for maneuver.
In addition astronomer Aymen Ibrahem is survey solar eclipses as follows:
- Queen Hatshepsut's fifteenth year
- Akhenaten's fourth year
- Seti I's ninth year
- Osorkon II's the twenty-second year.
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1 hour ago, Strange said:
Is that the sort of thing you are referring to?
Not exactly.
Assyrian, Babylonian and Egypt history tell total five solar eclipses to a given year. (Sorry my bad english)
- Esarhaddon's first year
- Ashur-Dan III's ninth year
- Shimbar-Sibak's seventh year
- Shoshenq I's seventeenth year
- Mursili II's tenth year.
Is also many other solar eclipses and few lunar eclipse:
- Takelot II's fifteenth year
- Sargon II'a about sixth year
All of these form a single fixed period with little room for maneuver.
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Can do new chronology using help solar eclipses? Perhaps everyone interested in reading, for example, the history of Assyria, Babylon and Egypt, has at some point noticed some references to solar eclipses observed at that distant time.
This is one:
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Ancient solar eclipses and ancient chronlogies
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Thanks. I start with this (finnish text from my facebook site):
Alkusoittoa hiukan. Nykyinen Babylonian, Assyrian ja Egyptin kronologia ei kovinkaan paljoa huomioi muinoin havaittuja auringonpimennyksiä. Netissä on tosin pidetty ”suurta ääntä” yhdestä (vain yhdestä), jonka ”tieteellinen nimi” on Assyrian auringonpimennys. Tosin on korostettu kuunpimennyksiä, joita babylonialaiset astrologit kirjasivat ylös. Osa tutkijoista on kuitenkin sitä mieltä, että nämä kuunpimennykset kirjattiin ylös satoja vuosia myöhemmin kuin ne tapahtuivat. Niimpä joudutaan valinnan eteen:
1. Hyväksytään babylonian astrologien kuunpimenykset ja järjestellääm kronologia niiden mukaan (kuten on nykyisin käytössä olevassa kronologiassa). Sen seurauksena on kuitenkin jouduttu hylkäämään tai ”olankohautuksella” sivuuttamaan lukuisat maininnat auringonpimennyksistä.
2. Hyväksytään auringonpimennykset ja järjestellään koronologia niiden mukaan. Sen seurauksena joudutaan hylkäämään babylonian astrologien ylöskirjaamat kuunpimennykset.
Tämä uusi tutkielma osoittaa, että on hyvät perusteet soveltaa tätä jälkimmäistä vaihtoehtoa.
What this translation to english? Maybe you can try use eg. google translation.... sorry.
I try translate, idea is this:
1. Accept lunar eclipses of babylonian astrologies and arrange chronology with they.This option effect: now has been abandon or ignore many solar eclipses.
2. Accept solar eclipses and arrange chronology with they. This option effect: must ababdon lunar eclipses of babylonian astrolgies.
Shimbar-Sipak:
Current chronology can try use solar eclipse 11 July 1015 BC. But this alone is not enough, one must take the whole into consideration. Because solar eclipse of Esarhaddon's first regnal year is not found close enough, it also affects reign of Shimbar-Shipak.