Uorigins

March 12, 2018

On 3/10/2018 at 12:20 AM, dstebbins said:

Food is necessary to sustain life. I get it. Killing livestock and crops is a necessary evil if you want to survive.

But humans tend to take food to another level. For us, food isn't just a means of survival. It's a fine-art. Culinary art, to be exact. There are artists - known as "chefs" - who specialize in finding new and creative ways to make food. Mealtime is usually treated as a family bonding ritual; the archetypal image of a wholesome family is one who is sitting around the dinner table with food covered all over the table!

This is actually a rare - if not completely unique - trait of food consumption. Most animals will kill their prey (and yes, vegetation counts as prey) and eat the food right then and there. Blood, bones, skin and all. No cooking; no saying grace. Just eat it and move on.

Are there any other animals in the world who treat food with any degree of ritual-ness, like we do? Obviously, it won't be nearly as elaborate as we do, seeing as how they can't control fire and therefore have no means of cooking food, let alone the elaborate recipes that our chefs come up with. But are there any animals that treat dining with any degree of artistic or ritualistic importance?

I don't think so, because there are no punishments involved in the animal world , among the 8.7 million species on earth, only THE HUMANS have created laws and regulations to safeguard themselves , and living in that mindset we too apply it to killing for food, The universe is just about transformation of energy and transformation of physical matter, 10 000 years ago maybe there were no punishments for killing of people for own safety too, animals do the same just now in their world, gangs, killings for territory, If we apply that to human nature that is crime, which is good in one way because we are safe in the hands of law.

But in the case of food and killing is that - if one animal gets killed , nothing goes to waste, we put the waste in the dustbin but and think it as wasted

But the act is that we do not see the next level on the waste consumption, that is the waste we think is eaten or fed on by smaller animals like flies , insects , bacteria or microorganisms.

There is no degree of ritual-ness involved in the food chain, because the food chain is itself THE RITUAL OF NATURE , eat others and at the end get eaten, the sweet flow of energy and physical transformation,

There is no animal that practices or fears god except us, there is just UN NOTICEABLY being part of the PHYSICS BIOLOGY and CHEMISTRY ritual, which has its own code of balance running in the background and all you have to do on earth is think about YOUR OWN SURVIVAL.

Now humans developed the idea of culinary , producing food, livestock and veggies, which is apart from the wild world of animals.

This is because of the evolution of art, because there is no more local war.

Now before we used to eat animals of the wild and grains and veggies of the wild. and we used to bury our body after death, which returned the energy collected from the universe back to it.

But as we evolved we had rituals in every little thing, we started burning bodies or burring them in coffins,

And on the other hand we were evolved that we started producing our own livestock and veggies, grains and consuming them,

So it is like we are breaking ourselves from the cycle of the wild,

and creating our own cycle and balance of life and death

and in that we are including rituals,

TO SAFEGUARD OURSELVES

BECAUSE WE ARE WORRIED WE ARE NOT GIVING BACK TO THE EARTH THE ENERGY WE CONSUMED FROM IT BY COFFINING OR BURNING RITUALS AFTER DEATH.

if you live in the wild, you will never find the need of any ritual but just to live free !

On 3/10/2018 at 3:22 PM, interested said:

I guess bon appetite sounds better than lets eat, dig in, help yourself, get stuck in, dont wait for me, perhaps. But they mean the same the japanese say いただきます Let us eat according to google translate, a bit like some english.

Most speakers would understand bon appetite. English being an adaptable language deriving many of its words from other invading countries over the years.

I wonder what the signal or sounds dolphins and whales waiting for other members of their species to shoal their food would use before diving in to eat? dive in perhaps eek eek eek. with perhaps each eek having a different tone and meaning like other tonal languages used by some humans. Some whales have brain cavities you can stand inside and they do communicate over huge distances. The fact they dont read and write and would not find a table useful to eat their food from due to evolutionary developments does not mean they are completely stupid. They of course due their evolutionary development over a few millenia did not need to develop weapons to defend themselves.