curiouscat

4 hours ago, Mordred said:

 

 

Orbits of stars and planets are different than orbits in an atom. The differences is numerous such as charge, In an atom the individual electrons do not attract each other, yet individual planets do. Under mass as a charge (positive) those like charges attract not repel as per the electromagnetic force.

That alone tells us were dealing with a different force than the electromagnetic. (No repulsive force).

I would not dare to say that gravity did not exist, although I would really like to know what gravity is? 

In an atom the individual electrons do not attract to each other because they are repulsed by each other, being likewise charges. Individual planets have both charge signs of negative and positive.  One could assume that the individual electrons charge of one body are attracted to the opposite charge of another body and vice versus?  The inverse square law playing a role in the magnitude of force as in Coulomb's  laws on charge. One could also assume the opposite and the likewise charges of two different bodies cause there to be a radius between the two bodies, a repulsive force. 

I am not saying this is any sort of fact or theory , it is just really asking why is gravity mechanism not thought of as charge when the affects of charge are pretty much the same as gravity.   I.e Could my electrons in my body be attracted to the protons in the floor by charge polarities? 

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So you're OK with charges attracting and repelling as an explanation, but mass attracting mass is somehow not an explanation?

Mass is not an explanation, if we was to say that mass is the property of the object directly proportional to charge, I think we have an explanation of mass.

59 minutes ago, Strange said:

Gravity is an effect of the curvature of space and time   That curvature is caused by the presence of mass or energy. It causes masses to move towards one another, which we perceive as a force (as described by Newton's law of gravity). 

Electrons are attracted to protons by the electromagnetic force (caused by the presence of electric charge). 

There is another force holding the protons together (the strong nuclear force). 

An Electron and a proton has mass, the charge polarity of the Electron is attracted to the charge polarity of the Proton. Mass is not explained and neither is gravity mechanism. 

If an atom gains more of one charge polarity than the other, the bond becomes stronger, the attractive force becomes greater.   The curvature of space time is imaginable shapes/patterns  of velocities of bodies.   

The Sun contains both charge signs as does the Earth, charge and the Coulomb's law also follows the inverse square law as does gravity.   Mass and charge are seemingly the same thing?  

In atomic structure there is only three known forces, 

1. Likewise charges repulse

2. Opposite charges attract

3. The strong Nuclear force

However number 3 is a product of either one of the opposite charges increase in number 2. i.e The more charge the tighter the bond. 

Mass does not have an explanation and orbits are rather circular like the electromotive force. 

6 hours ago, Area54 said:

If you have read about Faraday and EMF I find it difficult to believe you have never heard of gravity, but I'll play along for the moment.

Gravity is the 'force' that causes all matter to attract other matter. It's what holds you onto the ground and a thousand other things besides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

 

I asked what is gravity? , not what the affects of gravity are. 

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Our orbit is due to gravity.

Orbits are due to the underlying force behind gravity. What is the underlying force? What is the process?  

I have read about atomic structure, the only force I can find is about the electron being attracted to the proton.   Is that gravity?

23 minutes ago, swansont said:

Our orbit is due to gravity.

What is gravity?

I watched this really cool video on you tube about Faraday and the electromotive force,  this invisible force that forms loops .  I then thought  the earth, in this seemingly loop around the sun,is the earth stick in an electromotive loop of the sun?