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Answer my question about the Giraffe Simon. I'll forgive you for calling me an arrogant fool (that's one of the good things I learned as a Christian), but answer the question.

 

....and that crap about Dawkins et al is ridiculous.


I'll forgive you because you are obviously emotional about all this - having your beliefs shattered by reason can be emotional and hard to accept.

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I have told you the universe is a kind of cellular automata, the science, and no body wanted to know.

That is not a new idea - and when pushed I don't recall you bringing anything new to this subject. But then that may have been your lack of willingness to engage with others.

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I am not a creationist, as previously stated the universe is a spatially infinite and eternal kind of cellular automata (the underlying architecture of the universe).

 

 

That is an interesting hypothesis. If you want anyone to consider it (and maybe you don't) then you would have to produce evidence to support it.

 

 

You keep asking me to prove like I am in some obligated to share it with people, you keep demanding I prove it, no one has ever once asked kindly.

 

I don't think anyone has insisted that you prove anything. But if you want your ideas to be taken seriously, then you need to provide more than just an assertion.

 

But maybe you don't want anyone to take your ideas seriously. And that is OK, too.

 

 

 

I don't believe the big bang, its complete and utter nonsense, but I don't think people are stupid for believing it.

 

You are of course, free to reject science. But if you want anyone else to consider that the big bang model is wrong, then you would need to provide some evidential or theoretical support for your argument.

 

But if you don't care whether others accept science and you are just here to publicise your own prejudices, then carry on. You are doing an excellent job.

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(RE: cellular automata) - It IS a romantic idea... would be absolutely amazing if it were true... whatever actually IS will be absolutely amazing if we ever work it out. More likely we will go through several wrong models before getting close.. how would one prove such a thing? Of course we can't - so these theories are pure speculation without any evidence. Maybe one day we (humans that is - we'll be long dead) will find a way of proving such a thing to be true or false.

 

The universe is an amazing place. Don't be surprised if people are sceptical if you claim to know everything.. (especially if you won't actually tell them how you know or share your evidence for belief, lol). In fact I would expect a fair bit of ridicule thrown in with that skeptisism - it's the way of the world unfortunately... I feel we are going in circles.

 

Still - what about that giraffe then?

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I have told you the universe is a kind of cellular automata, the science, and no body wanted to know. They were more interested in other things.

 

I was interested. I asked if it was based on Stephen Wolfram's work. As always, you changed the subject to avoid discussion.

 

 

The conversations here are a waste of time, thanks for the input so far, goodbye.

 

Only because you make them a waste of time by not, you know, discussing anything.

 

Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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You see people think I am some sort of crackpot but the evidence would suggest otherwise.

 

For example, I am a billionaire earning massive amounts of wealth doing online trading.

 

I am also about to launch a martial arts academy (url deleted) in the UK which will be the first and only university dedicated to martial arts, alongside a network of free schools. I am without a shadow of a doubt the worlds greatest living martial artist.

 

Now how sure are you I am a crackpot?

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You see people think I am some sort of crackpot but the evidence would suggest otherwise.

What evidence?

 

For example, I am a billionaire earning massive amounts of wealth doing online trading.

If true, then this is irrelevant to any discussion about science.

 

 

Simon - what is it you really what here? If you want to discuss your ideas on cellular automation, then please use the thread you started on this subject (but made little contribution to).

 

Also, it is against the rules to use this forum for advertising as you have done. Please stop.

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...was that a joke? I thought it was funny... anyone claiming to be the greatest living martial artist has to be a crack pot - I see what you did there - that was funny. +1 for humour.

 

re trading - did you make your billions doing this or did you have a mint to start with? It is easier with capital to start with... try making a billion from scratch. ;-)

 

Giraffe?

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Jesus owns the majority of banks in the western world, and like him I have a licence to print money, I have as much money as I want.

 

Now you brainiacs think about it, at one point in time there was no money, now there is trillions of the stuff in circulation.

 

Where did it come from exactly? Did it like the universe just magic into being?

 

Jesus created the modern banking system by introducing paper money and out competing the gold diggers who were using metal money.

 

The modern banking system is a con, it is a very large, sophisticated pyramid scheme because those who have done their homework will know Jesus was the last of the Pharoah's, he wound down the Egyptian empire merging it with the Roman empire creating the Holy Roman Empire, the worlds first fascist state. Over the last 2000 years this fascist movement has grown to become the Christian west, where all the governments are fascist in nature. Part of fascism is democracy where the ignorant Godless heathens fight over who is going to be the boss despite the fact that it is all a show, which is why it is called the political theatre, its just a show because behind the scenes the whole thing is run by religious people who also own all the newspapers. We use very advanced mind control techniques to make people believe they are free when they are in fact in bondage to imaginary debts created by loaning out money that was created out of thin air. Some people think the economy is going up and down and what not however growth and depressions are completely engineered. If you want the economy to grow you pour money into it, this makes people chase after the money and work. After a bit of time they get greedy and lazy so we start calling in loans and withdrawing money from circulation. This keeps people on their toes as well as pruning businesses that are not investing in themselves.

 

Most people see this supremacy of Jesus as evidence of his divine nature, I know you guys are always asking for evidence so I will try and show it to you.

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Jesus owns the majority of banks in the western world, and like him I have a licence to print money, I have as much money as I want.

If that is the Jesus I think you mean, then assuming he was real and a single person, is dead.

 

Anyway, what the heck has this got to do with anything about creationism, big bang cosmologies and life in the Universe?

 

Methinks you are a troll...

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This is about cocky, arrogant know it alls who are going around calling people crackpots for simply coming to discuss science.

 

It is other people trolling me and its rather boring, I was hoping for some serious discussion but its a joke, this forum is full of prejudice and dishonourable conduct, simply because a religious scientist has realised Einstein's dream and not an atheist one.

 

I haven't published it publicly because it would be very dangerous in the wrong hands, you are talking about being the entire power of the universe in your hands.

 

This is why I was here, to try and share it with you, maybe even see if you can work it out for yourselves if I tell you the basics. I am here only because I am generous and I like share.

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It is other people trolling me and its rather boring, I was hoping for some serious discussion but its a joke, this forum is full of prejudice and dishonourable conduct, simply because a religious scientist has realised Einstein's dream and not an atheist one.

 

Many great scientists were, and are, religious. That is not an obstacle to getting ideas accepted.

 

One of the founders of the big bang model, Georges Lemaitre, was a Catholic priest. There are many other examples.

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This is about cocky, arrogant know it alls who are going around calling people crackpots for simply coming to discuss science.

Though, generally you do not seem that interested in discussing science.

 

...simply because a religious scientist has realised Einstein's dream and not an atheist one.

You are wrong here. If you want to discuss science then it is best to leave religion out of it. You have in now way had your science ideas (not that I have noticed many) criticized because of your religion.

 

I haven't published it publicly because it would be very dangerous in the wrong hands, you are talking about being the entire power of the universe in your hands.

Do you realise how silly that sounds? Anyway, okay you don't want to talk about your realisation on a theory of everything. Great, so lets move on.

 

This is why I was here, to try and share it with you, maybe even see if you can work it out for yourselves if I tell you the basics.

Well, you don't want to share - and if you are talking about your thread on cellular automation then you stopped early and did not show anyone that you have some further ideas to add. Shame really.

 

I am here only because I am generous and I like share.

Share or not share, you are acting like a troll and I am sorry to say, a bit of a crackpot.

 

If you do not like this forum, then you are free to leave at any time.

 

 

Many great scientists were, and are, religious. That is not an obstacle to getting ideas accepted.

Newton would be another example, as would anyone from that period. We once lived in much more religious times. Still, I do know scientists and mathematicians that are religious. As they tend to keep science and religion separate few problems with publishing occur.

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It is only atheists that require science and religion be separate. For example, there is a clear well defined science to religion. Likewise, the big bang/evolutionary theology is nothing more than religion cloaked in scientific language, except Godless religions are called cults. Now if you think there is no science in religion, you are just an ignorant atheist, religion is based on a very clear well understood science.

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It is only atheists that require science and religion be separate.

It is the scientific method that really tells us that the two should be separate. One is looking for objective evidence of predicted phenomena - it is this objectiveness that really keeps personal ideas of gods out of the mix.

 

For example, there is a clear well defined science to religion.

In what sense? For sure people study religious practices and how this effects societies and individual people from a scientific perspective.

 

But if you mean there is evidence, real objective evidence that God exists, then you are mistaken.

 

Likewise, the big bang/evolutionary theology is nothing more than religion cloaked in scientific language, except Godless religions are called cults.

You will need to explain this to me carefully. I don't see that science is a 'religion without a god'.

 

Now if you think there is no science in religion, you are just an ignorant atheist, religion is based on a very clear well understood science.

But you are mistaken here. Or not explaining yourself well. Where does the scientific method come into religion?

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Ok, I am a Taoist grand master and last week I achieved enlightenment meaning that I have not been asleep for like 13 days in a row, and I just keeping feeling more and more alive. As I understand the science of my religion if do not go to sleep I will not age, and if I keep going then I will become immortal being able to levitate and eventually fly. This would be much like the biblical Adam, the first enlightened man.

 

Now I am pretty sure that modern 'science' would say it is nonsense, but how else do you explain a man not sleeping for 13 days?

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Certainly wont prolong life... the body sleeps for a reason.

 

And are you ignoring me for a reason? What did you make of the Giraffe Laryngeal nerve?

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Ok, I am a Taoist grand master and last week I achieved enlightenment meaning that I have not been asleep for like 13 days in a row, and I just keeping feeling more and more alive. As I understand the science of my religion if do not go to sleep I will not age, and if I keep going then I will become immortal being able to levitate and eventually fly. This would be much like the biblical Adam, the first enlightened man.

 

Now I am pretty sure that modern 'science' would say it is nonsense, but how else do you explain a man not sleeping for 13 days?

This is just BS - nothing to do with my questions to your remarks.

 

Please try to address what I asked about the scientific method and religion.

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Look, I did not start with the insults, I tried to keep it civil but when people are aggressively and viciously attacking you (calling someone a crackpot for instance) it is hard to keep your cool and not fire something back.

 

Look, creationism, big bang, same thing, the universe was created some time in the past by unknown forces.

 

Creationism is just for show, Christians don't really believe it, it was just designed to try and get big bangers to see how there own creationism is nonsense.

 

All the worlds religions, at the highest level, teach the same things. You cannot read a holy book and think you have understood it, you have to hear the associated oral stories to fully understand what is going on. However these oral stories are only shared with souls that treat other with dignity and respect and are genuinely seeking the truth. If you do not have these qualities you will be fed some bullshit story that sounds like it could be plausible but is not true. This is part of the science of religion, the purpose is to divide those who want the blessings of the earth (gold diggers) from those who want the blessings of heaven.

 

For example, these big bankers are seeking the riches of earth, they pay themselves as much possible while paying others as little as possible. Furthermore they are just gamblers who use absolutely nonsense mathematical equations to decide which projects to throw money at hoping that the gains are greater than the losses. Of course if one knows the truth about the modern banking system one will realise that it is owned by none other than Jesus' secret society who's logo you can find everywhere:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pyramid+with+eye&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi82umI8KTOAhXsKcAKHYrrDRYQsAQILg&biw=1279&bih=1291

 

So my point here is that the big bang is no different to creationism, it is creationism without a God.

 

You should, perhaps, consider posting your thoughts to the or a Psychology Forum. It's seems that much of what you have and haven't said regards issues of the mind rather than those related to the physical sciences or religion. Even better, perhaps you should consider discussing those issues directly with a specialist where you live. I doubt that any of your posts to this forum or science discussion site will generate the kind of responses you are apparently seeking.

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Thank you for your wonderfully kind comments. Of course being God like you can see everything and have clearly been watching over me the last couple of weeks.

 

So it is bullshit, where is the evidence to support your claim it is bullshit, where is the logic to support your claim it is bullshit? You have none, you just believe it is bullshit because it does not agree with your preconceptions. You maybe scientists in science but you clearly throw all that out of the window when it comes down to the fact you might be wrong about the universe.

 

For example, part of the theory of everything, in addition to the universe being a kind of cellular automata, is the introduction of the immortal soul. Consequently death is just an illusion that appears real.

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You should, perhaps, consider posting your thoughts to the or a Psychology Forum.

 

Or maybe even having a one-to-one session with a suitable health professional.

Thank you for your wonderfully kind comments. Of course being God like you can see everything and have clearly been watching over me the last couple of weeks.

 

So it is bullshit, where is the evidence to support your claim it is bullshit, where is the logic to support your claim it is bullshit? You have none, you just believe it is bullshit because it does not agree with your preconceptions. You maybe scientists in science but you clearly throw all that out of the window when it comes down to the fact you might be wrong about the universe.

 

For example, part of the theory of everything, in addition to the universe being a kind of cellular automata, is the introduction of the immortal soul. Consequently death is just an illusion that appears real.

 

Is this all just practice for your political career when not answering questions will, of course, be a valuable skill.

 

On the other hand, being reasonably polite to your audience is usually considered a good thing as well (notwithstanding Donald Trump).

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