# tegmark question

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the area in question has a perimeter, that is the border between the infinite chaos and the finite "bubble" of organized information within it. The transition between the two is indeed the perimeter boundary. The "example" of logic is the property of information within the bubble having a fixed value or value set. This allow long term relationships to occur within the bubble. That I define as the "observation" of logic occurence.....Exterior to the bubble, in the chaos, the information is there, but is not evolved to the point of determinancy of values, so if the information is of a digital nature, that being something akin to a base 2 computer format, a "bit" will not remain "stable" and will transit to a "no bit" state randomly and then back again. This constant fluxing of value, allows limited time for the information to begin relationships, or exchanges of values between them, except by random transients. It is that inablility to form anything more complex informationally from the basic elements within (as an average condition) , that brands the chaos as having insufficient logic to "evolve" to more complex conditions. The chaos remains unchanged under normal circumstances. It is by the rare conditions I have already written about that randomness dictates an occaisional bit to remain ordered, and those rare bits become the "seed" of logic which can be self-perpetuating under even rarer conditions as described by the "density" requirement. That is the difference. Logic has order and illogic has none ( or a trivial amount), not enough to "do work" and the boundary point, which is expanding as the bubble grows, is the perimeter. I see the universe itself expanding into the chaos, that is what is on "the other side"....logic within, chaos without....just as the primordial few logic based bits somehow persisted in the chaos, everything is from that catalytic seed, which is still growing. Perhaps that continued growth is what we perceive as our universe's cosmic expansion...into the infinite sea of chaos....edd

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previously you said no 13 was born, there was nothing in chaos. Now you are saying chaos has an indeterminate value/s. That sounds like contradiction.

Moreover, The whole of chaos is made up of illogic as you say, by what mechanism the illogic becomes logic and the values become fixed. BTW, the value of what becomes fixed.

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I am considering the "break-down" transition period in which a change occurs, similar to the shift of an electron in the valence order of an atom...isn't that supposed to be an instant transition period? That is the rate of changes I am talking about when I say that the possible values of the chaos are always changing....the rate is an equivalent speed as to the electron's shuffling atomic levels....I say the speed is not instantaneous, but much faster than measurable, and that same speed seems to show up in straight line gravity effects and entanglement failure with it's spooky action at a distance...also, the proposed speed of inflation....edd

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