Semjase Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 These two videos prove that perpetual motion does exist. Any thoughts? -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 yes, I have a thought. Both of them are wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bilko Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Oh, ye seekers after perpetual motion, how many vain chimeras have you pursued? Go and take your place with the alchemists!, Leonardo Davinci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's always nice when a known hoax is used to show free energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobrainer Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Concerning the first video, the universe has been moving about 13.7 billion years and it is not considered a PPM. Friction will slow all machines down eventually.The second one probably has a hidden battery or energy storage. Not convincing but cool. Edited October 23, 2012 by Nobrainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 These two videos prove that perpetual motion does exist. "Proof" is not something science looks for. These two videos are questionable even as supportive evidence. FYI, assertions like this automatically cause the science-minded to raise their skeptic shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I find it very annoying that those beautifully made machines are used to promote dodgy perpetual motion claims. Here is a quote from veproject1.org Perpetual Motion Machines The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes on forever. However, perpetual motion usually refers to a device or system that delivers more energy than was put into it. Such a device or system would be in violation of the law of Conservation of Energy, which states that energy can never be created or destroyed, and is therefore deemed impossible by the laws of physics. Our working models assist us to better explain the impossibility of Perpetual Motion. It's excellent tool to discuss first and second Laws of Thermodynamics, Hydrostatic equilibrium Law, Law of Gravity, efficiency, friction, As is clear from the above, the creator and exhibitor understands the science and is trying to educate people away from believing in perpetual motion. I would whole-heartedly recommend a viewing of the lovely machines that have been made from drawings of da Vinci 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuusio Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) It is possible to build PMM, I have done it already. I have applied patent (not for PMM) but PMM is byproduct of the invention. You can thank Iodine, when she gave me a ban I was almost releaving my experiment on ether, which has a big part in my invention. During the ban, I got informed that I shouldn't disclose my experiment because of patent laws. Edited October 23, 2012 by illuusio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It is possible to build PMM, I have done it already. I have applied patent (not for PMM) but PMM is byproduct of the invention. You can thank Iodine, when she gave me a ban I was almost releaving my experiment on ether, which has a big part in my invention. During the ban, I got informed that I shouldn't disclose my experiment because of patent laws. It's taking the PRH a long time to let you know you don't meet the requirements for patentability. In the US, perpetual motion is one of the first things that gets your application kicked out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) My understanding is the the USPO doesn't , strictly speaking, ban patents on perpetual motion machines. They just ask you to set a model going in their office and come back in a year's time. Of course, it may be that now with a better understanding of physics, and the fact that I can buy a cheap battery operated watch that will pass that test, they have changed. Incidentally, at the bottom of those videos is a control marked "quality" I tried changing it, but the video was still rubbish. Edited October 23, 2012 by John Cuthber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuusio Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's taking the PRH a long time to let you know you don't meet the requirements for patentability. In the US, perpetual motion is one of the first things that gets your application kicked out. I did not applied patent for PMM. It just happens to be a byproduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's taking the PRH a long time to let you know you don't meet the requirements for patentability. In the US, perpetual motion is one of the first things that gets your application kicked out. It appears to be one of the few things where you have to have a working prototype rather than just present a description. http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2011/10/11/the-patent-law-of-perpetual-motion/id=19828/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil2366 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 These two videos prove that perpetual motion does exist. Any thoughts? doesn't exist! need some sort of input and it is hard pill to swallow for who has belief that it is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 This video, on the other hand, shows that dancing zombies exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It is possible to build PMM, I have done it already. I have applied patent (not for PMM) but PMM is byproduct of the invention. You can thank Iodine, when she gave me a ban I was almost releaving my experiment on ether, which has a big part in my invention. During the ban, I got informed that I shouldn't disclose my experiment because of patent laws. ! Moderator Note Does it extract energy from your hijacking of threads? Because that energy does seem inexhaustible. You only get to discuss your speculations subjects in your own threads in speculations. No place else. Those are the rules. Unfortunately for you, you neglected to follow the rules too many times and your thread got locked. Responding to this in this thread will be considered another thread hijack and a rules violation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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