alpha2cen Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) This theory is similar to the particle theory. How to give a mass to the particle? There is a field in the space. The field property is similar to the electric orbit in the atom. When Particles are in this field, they have a mass. When the particles increase their speed , it is required a force depending on the field effect to the particle. F=ma m is a interaction parameter(particle mass) between the field and a particle when we change the velocity. The field has no drag. When a particle has 0 mass, like a light, it has a speed C. *** At the straight line movement High velocity --- high straight line movement orbit in the space Low velocity --- low " Same space, different orbit. When we change the particle orbit, F = ma force is required. m; particle mass Gravity is the bending phenomena of the particle movement orbit. Edited July 6, 2012 by alpha2cen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) This theory is similar to the particle theory. How to give a mass to the particle? There is a field in the space. The field property is similar to the electric orbit in the atom. When Particles are in this field, they have a mass. When the particles increase their speed , it is required a force depending on the field effect to the particle. F=ma m is a interaction parameter(particle mass) between the field and a particle when we change the velocity. The field has no drag. When a particle has 0 mass, like a light, it has a speed C. *** At the straight line movement High velocity --- high straight line movement orbit in the space Low velocity --- low " Same space, different orbit. When we change the particle orbit, F = ma force is required. m; particle mass Gravity is the bending phenomena of the particle movement orbit. The orbit structure is like this. v=C-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- --- --- --- v=0-------------------------------------------- When particle moves between orbits F=ma force is required.-->Field property m; particle mass. a; acceleration(change of orbits/time) Low mass particle (for example electron) can easily move between orbits with small force. Edited July 6, 2012 by alpha2cen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) The orbit structure is like this. v=C-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- --- --- --- v=0-------------------------------------------- When particle moves between orbits E=maL Energy is required.-->Field property For comparison, we assume L=1. m; particle mass. a; acceleration(change of orbits/time) Low mass particle (for example electron) can easily move between orbits with small force. Why heavy particles are more difficult to change their velocity orbits than small ones ? Heavy particles have much more affinity to surround something(back ground particles or field) than smaller ones. So, To change heavy particle orbit, we must change not only heavy particle's orbit, but also many surround something' state. Smaller particles have small affinity to surround something. So small affinity particle has small mass like electron. Edited July 7, 2012 by alpha2cen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Summary This theory is similar to the particle theory. How to give a mass to the particle? There is a field in the space. The field property is similar to the electric orbit in the atom. When particles are in this field, they have a mass. Same space, different orbit. The orbit structure is like this. v=C-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- --- --- --- v=0-------------------------------------------- When particle moves between orbits E1(v=v1) to E2(v=v2), del E =E2 -E1 = 1/2 m (v22-v12) m=2del E/ (v22-v12) m; particle mass del E; energy which is supplied from the surround. The energy band span is not constant. When velocity is near the C, light velocity, the band span is more shorter than low velocity one, i.c., more energy is required to increase the velocity. Why heavy particles require much energy to change their velocity orbits than smaller ones ? Heavy particles have much more affinity to surround something(back ground particles or field) than smaller ones. So, to change their particle orbit, they must change not only their particle's orbit, but also many related something(back ground particles or field). Is this clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStu Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Why heavy particles are more difficult to change their velocity orbits than small ones ? Heavy particles have much more affinity to surround something(back ground particles or field) than smaller ones. So, To change heavy particle orbit, we must change not only heavy particle's orbit, but also many surround something' state. Smaller particles have small affinity to surround something. So small affinity particle has small mass like electron. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D H Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Agreed Seriously? Agreed?? This thread is meaningless word salad. There's nothing with which to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Seriously? Agreed?? This thread is meaningless word salad. There's nothing with which to agree. How to explain mass giving mechanism clearly? According to this concept, electron-electron collider is more difficult to make Higgs Boson than the same speed proton-proton collider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D H Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 How to explain mass giving mechanism clearly? In four words, mass is bound energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) In four words, mass is bound energy. Element particles have no mass. Proton and neutron have mass. Higgs field exists. When we move a object, we feel a mass related phenomena. Are there any link between element particles and bounded energy? I said the bounded energy as an affinitive something from the back ground. Edited July 8, 2012 by alpha2cen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwulf Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Seriously? Agreed?? This thread is meaningless word salad. There's nothing with which to agree. Indeed.... I mean, Agreed Element particles have no mass. Proton and neutron have mass. Higgs field exists. When we move a object, we feel a mass related phenomena. Are there any link between element particles and bounded energy? I said the bounded energy as an affinitive something from the back ground. Get a sci-pop book at least and try and learn this stuff through the medium of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Element particles have no mass. Proton and neutron have mass. Higgs field exists. When we move a object, we feel a mass related phenomena. Are there any link between element particles and bounded energy? I said the bounded energy as an affinitive something from the back ground. Higgs field exists. Exact meaning is "Higgs-like(5 sigma or 6 sigma better) boson exists". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D H Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Element particles have no mass. Some elementary particles have no mass. These massless particles are precisely the ones that do not interact with the Higgs field. Proton and neutron have mass. Protons and neutrons are not elementary particles. Each comprises three quarks. Those quarks get their mass thanks to their interaction with the Higgs field. However, if you sum up the masses of those quarks you will only get 5% or so of the mass of a proton and a neutron. So where's that extra mass come from? It's not the Higgs field. It's the strong force that results in this extra mass. Mass is bound energy. Some advice: Drop your meaningless --------------- nomenclature. Instead of spouting nonsense, learn some physics, and learn the mathematics that underlies physics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2cen Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Protons and neutrons are not elementary particles. Each comprises three quarks. Those quarks get their mass thanks to their interaction with the Higgs field. However, if you sum up the masses of those quarks you will only get 5% or so of the mass of a proton and a neutron. So where's that extra mass come from? It's not the Higgs field. It's the strong force that results in this extra mass. Mass is bound energy. Some advice: Drop your meaningless --------------- nomenclature. Instead of spouting nonsense, learn some physics, and learn the mathematics that underlies physics. No matter how the ship is bigger, we can not control the ship without a small rope binding on the land. The small rope is the affinitive something between element particles and background something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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