# prove problem

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can somebody help?

prove or disprove, If G is a group in which every proper subgroup is cyclic, then G is cyclic.

in additon, can u explain cyclic

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can somebody help?

prove or disprove, If G is a group in which every proper subgroup is cyclic, then G is cyclic.

in additon, can u explain cyclic

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What is a "proper" subgroup? never came across that term before.

If G is a group, and you have a $g \in G$ such that $G=<g>$, then G is called a cyclic group and g is called the generator of G

Here,

$<g>=\{g^k:k \in \mathbb{Z}\}$

$<g>=\{mg:m \in \mathbb{Z}\}$

Well basically its just saying that, if u have a group G, then its a cyclic group if there exists an element in G such that if u take all the integer powers of that element, you get the group G.

A nice property is that a subgroup of a cyclic group is also cyclic.

Cyclic groups are also abelian by the way.

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What is a "proper" subgroup? never came across that term before.

If G is a group, and you have a $g \in G$ such that $G=<g>$, then G is called a cyclic group and g is called the generator of G

Here,

$<g>=\{g^k:k \in \mathbb{Z}\}$

$<g>=\{mg:m \in \mathbb{Z}\}$

Well basically its just saying that, if u have a group G, then its a cyclic group if there exists an element in G such that if u take all the integer powers of that element, you get the group G.

A nice property is that a subgroup of a cyclic group is also cyclic.

Cyclic groups are also abelian by the way.

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At a guess bloodhound, I say a "proper" subgroup was just a subgroup of G that in't G itself, saying that though, I don't think I've conme across the term before either...*thinks*...

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At a guess bloodhound, I say a "proper" subgroup was just a subgroup of G that in't G itself, saying that though, I don't think I've conme across the term before either...*thinks*...

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oh rite... maybe its equivalent to a "proper" subset. cheers .. ill have a go at doing this question.

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oh rite... maybe its equivalent to a "proper" subset. cheers .. ill have a go at doing this question.

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what's your inkling? do you think it true or false?

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what's your inkling? do you think it true or false?

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At a guess bloodhound, I say a "proper" subgroup was just a subgroup of G that in't G itself, saying that though, I don't think I've conme across the term before either...*thinks*...

Yes, that's right. The only real conceptual difference between that and a proper subset is that the trivial subgroup is still a proper subgroup, whereas the null set isn't a proper subset.

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