SplitInfinity Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Split Infinity, I understand your point, about religious people that are operating with such a diverse mindset from "reason", that they cannot be reasoned with. One of my main reasons for trying to understand what people "mean" by god, was 9/11, where the action, done presumably in the name of Allah, to deal a blow to Satan, looked like nothing more than pure Evil to me. Death and destruction for no purpose, no goal, no sensible reason. I am an enemy of those that would be behind such a day as 9/11. I am not the enemy of the creator of the universe. Therefore the action was not taken by the creator of the universe, and anyone thinking that the creator of the universe was served by such an action, is in serious error. So for me, in this discussion, where belief in the creator of the universe is being equated with error and brokeness, I fully agree, as in the case of 9/11, where it is so obvious that the creator of the universe would not do such a contrary thing, and therefore it must be the act of broken persons, in serious error. This however does not convict God of the act, nor prove to us, that there is not a higher standard we should hold ourselves to. So if God exists, he wouldn't do that, and if God doesn't exist, he didn't do that by virtue of the fact that he doesn't exist to do that. Which leaves only us, to figure out what should and shouldn't be done, what standards to enforce and uphold, and what things are good and what things are bad for us, here and now, and for our children, who will take our places when we die. In this, the "idea" of God, of an overarching ideal that we are responsible to, and "working for", when we do our job correctly, is not a bad thing to believe in. However, if you think personally, that you are the only one on the job, the only one doing it right...you have somehow missed the point. Regards, TAR2 Tar...What I am trying to convey is...from MY experience...and such experience is long...almost 3 decades...and extensive...of all the groups and people I have had to deal with...those who performed the most vicious and violent actions as well as being people who I had a very difficult to almost impossible time trying to find common ground from which to broker an agreement with...were people and groups that acted out of Religious ideals and concepts. This in no way means everyone who believes in a GOD or follows a Religion is vicious and violent or would ever do anything that would call for a visit from me and my team. All this means is that from my experience...as well as the experience of others that do what I sometimes do as I have had many a conversation about this...the most unpredictable, violent, dangerous, self righteous, least concerned for innocent life and willing to do just about ANYTHING to further their cause...are those people who are HIGHLY RELIGIOUS BELIEVERS IN A GOD. You would not BELIEVE some of the things such people have on their RAP SHEET. It reads like a DEMON'S LIST! Now I do not think people who believe in a GOD are broken. But there are some who definitely are and seem to exist at a much greater percentage of the whole than any other group. Split Infinity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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