skwiff Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 would any one know the chemical compersistion of the sap of the pachypodium genus? they are used as arrow poisons so they must be quite potent. i have a hunch that the toxins are alkoids and ae related to the oleandrin glycoside alkoids that are found in the plant oleander, which is a cardiac toxin. the reason behind this is that if you google it there is no infomation upon the topic! the only reason is the need to know:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ny Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 would any one know the chemical compersistion of the sap of the pachypodium genus? they are used as arrow poisons so they must be quite potent. i have a hunch that the toxins are alkoids and ae related to the oleandrin glycoside alkoids that are found in the plant oleander, which is a cardiac toxin. the reason behind this is that if you google it there is no infomation upon the topic! the only reason is the need to know:P Hm, as far as scifinder goes, pachypodia natural products have not yet been isolated or identified. But correct me, if I am wrong. I found this here, which says the arrow poison might actually come from different plants, since they are a mixture of plant extracts, but its a very old article. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hlca.19640470824/abstract Anybody else found something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Hmm. I might have a look-see throughweb of science when I get home. Potentially, the compound may not have been isolated and characterised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwiff Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Hmm. I might have a look-see throughweb of science when I get home. Potentially, the compound may not have been isolated and characterised. so there is potential to discover new chemicals? thats if the toxins have not been identified already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza2002 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It has been characterised and was used in one of lectures; it is biosynthesised by a [2+4] cycloaddition. Now if I could only find my notes, I could tell you what it is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwiff Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 It has been characterised and was used in one of lectures; it is biosynthesised by a [2+4] cycloaddition. Now if I could only find my notes, I could tell you what it is.... that would be really kindofyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ny Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 It has been characterised and was used in one of lectures; it is biosynthesised by a [2+4] cycloaddition. Now if I could only find my notes, I could tell you what it is.... A [2+4] cycloaddition? Are you talking about my favourite reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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