# Burning Hydrogen

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i dont think that i will loose my hand doing this, im not using that much of the stuff, also, should i turn the cup up right, or leave it face down?

there will be hydrogen and oxygen, and i dont want it to escape, do i assume that its best just to leave it down, so none of the hydrogen can escape.

is this safe indoors?

i would have thought so with smallish quantities.

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a thin walled plastic cup is fine indoors, and keep it upside down else the H will escape and take the O2 with it.

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um, the explosion or ignition will quite likely melt the cup, what can i hold the cup with which wont hurt me, catch fire or explode!? (i dont have gauntlets)

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well before you light it its perfectly safe, so put it in a safe place 1stly and move slowly as you dont air turbulance to dilute your mix.

then either get a long stick with a lit match atatched to it and use that, or get someone stupid to light it for for you

Im joking with the last part

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hmm, this is getting harder, i will have to put it on the concrete or something, coz the table might melt [plastic] or my wooden one might get really burnt or something [thats a proper wooden one, not an experimental one!] then i'll have to make some kinda tripod stand [i dont have a tripod] so i'll just make one outta, hmmm, something! any ideas what to make a tripod out of? then i just get a stick and light it.

or get someone stupid to light it for for you
i'll just go and get my brother.
Im joking with the last part
what was that? i missed that part...

that bit was actually quite funny!! ROFLOL so they say!

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no no no, the wooden tables just fine

the reaction is that fast theres no time to burn the table, the cup will split and maybe melt a little in a few places, but not enough to make a fire on your table, trust me on that one, youre more likely to make a burn mark with the match on the stick when you drop it after the bang during your involuntary poo session

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um, with two pages or posts, i dont really think im gonna get that much of a shock when i see this happening!

i spose most chemical stuff happens on wooden tables though.

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plenty can happen on wooden tables, but I digress

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Thou shalt not have mercy upon pine tables!

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Thou shalt not have mercy upon pine tables!
or thout shalt be sparketh and vexed..... amen!
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no YT, i was referring to 5614 with the hydrogen trick...my professor doing it in class was enough for me to say, hell no.

the WD-40 trick is good man, and unless your an idiot, you hold the can on a slightly upright position. so that the flame doesnt reach the can. and even if i coated the can with starting fluid, it would not touch the flame, as it stays a good 4 inches from the can at all times. hot air rises, and so do flames, dont want to get burned? stay below the flames...

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Im more than au faye with how it works

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ok, so lets see here....burning a gas, which expands to fill its container, whatever that is, extremely flamable, completely consumed in a firery blaze in under a second....or, a controlled flame thrower using mildly flamable oil and pressurized gas. its a tough one, but considering i can't control the expansion of a gas, i'll stick to point and spray.

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I once decided to electrolyze some water, and I caught the hydrogen and oxygen in a sandwich baggie. I wasn't expecting much, so I lit it in my basement. BOOM! Really loud, more than I expected. Encouraged by this, I decided to do it again, but with a gallon baggie and do it outside. Sounded like a shotgun going off. Ah, chemistry is fun.

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Yeah. When you have the proper stoichiometic ratio of reactants, as you would get when you electrolyze the eventual product, the reaction proceeds at an incredible rate and with a loud result. What's even more frightening is if you have some platinum wire and put that at the end of a long stick, then put that platinum wire inside the hydrogen/oxygen mixture. It will immediately go BOOM as the platinum catalyzes the reaction.

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Damn, I need to go and get me some Pt-wire.

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an easy source would be to get one of those lighters that dont blow out in the wind, the gas type, the wire gauze is Pt wire, so if you can a few broken ones (and they do break regularly) carefully remove the wire

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my friend had a lighter where the flame was green, it had some special thingy in it, which effected the flame like that so it was green, dunno what material it was though.

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I had a green flame lighter. The metal thingie that made it green was used up and broke off. It seemed like copper or some mix of copper and another metal.

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would copper turn a flame green? why?

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I don't know, it just looked like copper.

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yes it would/does, its the higher energy state of the Cu ion, that emits the color

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so if you place a strip of Cu next to a flame, the flame will go green?

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into, as opposed to "next to" and make sure it isnt a huge peice, as its a good heat conductor and won`t reach suficient temp to ionise any of it. a thin copper wire should be just fine

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so falme with copper wire going through the middle and the flame should go green... thats cool.

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