budullewraagh Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 actually not really. depending on the concentration and volume of your sulfuric and the volume of your peroxide what you'd get is a very, very dilute mixture of a little sulfuric acid, a little hydrogen peroxide and a bit of peroxymonosulfuric acid (pirahna bath). it's not worth it if you use such low conc peroxide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarygun Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Is hydrogen peroxide an enzyme? Enzyme can be inorganic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1dermon Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 so basically i'd have to extract that h2o2 from the water...hmm...are there any other safe ways of making such a potent acid? also, why would it be so diluted? i imagine that that addition of h2o would make the acid stronger, feeding off of the additional hydrogen...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 such a potent acid will never be any safer than any other potent acid, addition of h20 to an acid would not make it stronger, even if there is more H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryan Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 http://yarchive.net/chem/piranha_solution.html An interesting (and scary) read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Is hydrogen peroxide an enzyme? nope, but it's a strong oxidizing agent. so basically i'd have to extract that h2o2 from the water in normal water there is no [math]H_2O_2[/math] such a potent acid will never be any safer than any other potent acid, addition of h20 to an acid would not make it stronger, even if there is more H well, the peroxide makes it a strong oxidizer and a little less concentrated (acidically speaking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1dermon Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 in normal water there is no H2O2 i understand, but i would have to buy "hydrogen peroxide" from a supermarket or something so that i could retrieve a more potent solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 buy it from salons; they have 30% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 So the 30% solution is the one they use in hair dying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1dermon Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 no chem supply store will carry 100%? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 yeah, 30% is used in hair dying. i purchased some 40% in a salon store about an hour ago. it's the consistency of shampoo though, sadly. anybody who has 100% conc of any peroxide is insane. theyre madly powerful oxidizing agents. remember, over 70% and contact with organics and/or metals and/or other reducing agents may blow it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 yeah, 30% is used in hair dying. i purchased some 40% in a salon store about an hour ago. it's the consistency of shampoo though, sadly. Yea, I had some of that a while ago. I was disappointed though and gave it to my brother. Any idea what else is in it? By the way I have about 5ml of unfreezable H2O2, any idea what purity that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 any idea what purity that is? pretty close to 100%. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH IT. do not touch reducing agents with it. the peroxide i got tonight had various otehr wax things in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 any ideas as to how you can get rid of the other waxy things? By the way I have about 5ml of unfreezable H2O2, any idea what purity that is? how cold have you tried freezing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Less that 0C, more than -30C. I have no way to accurately measure the temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 the peroxide used in dental surgerys are 30%+ and have no contaminants or conditioners in it and that`s PERCENT, NOT Vols! 30 Vols is only 9% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 well if it wont freeze at less than 0C then it is probably pretty pure H2O2, why dont you try and blow it up or something, what else can you do with it? maybe a nice reducing agent will do the trick *evil smile* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 why dont you try and blow it up or something' date=' what else can you do with it?maybe a nice reducing agent will do the trick *evil smile*[/quote'] there`s plenty other things you can do with it if you`re into blowing things up, but lets not go there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsatan Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I'd like to know some uses other than "Boom ouch wheres my finger gone". I know its good for growing hydroponics plants for their roots, lol. (my hobby). But apart from that I wouldnt know, anyone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Well why don't you try the piranha solution and pour it on a pine table. That's what I would do. Or maybe you could catch a squirrel and bleach its fur. Though that would probably make the other squirrels laugh at him. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_73 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I'd like to know some uses other than "Boom ouch wheres my finger gone". I know its good for growing hydroponics plants for their roots' date=' lol. (my hobby). But apart from that I wouldnt know, anyone???[/quote'] if you do hydroponics where do you get your nitric acid from for the use as a ph down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 if you do hydroponics where do you get your nitric acid from for the use as a ph down HUH??? this is the H2O2 thread, not the nitric acid one as for the PH, many of the salts used in Hydroponics are acidic, Super-Phos (calcium Hydrogen Phosphate) for example has a low PH. in fact a PH of between 6.6 and 7 is preff for quite a few plants (although they need flushing with neutral occasionaly to prevent salt build up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_73 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 lol yes nitric acid is used as a ph down for when plants are just starting to grow when they are buds its genrally around 30% ive seen a 1ltr for £4.50 but it might have some impurites such as phosphate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 well that`s news to me! where did you see this product in the UK? and 30%? are you SURE!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_73 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 i think the web sites called http://www.growell.co.uk under the search button type in nitric acid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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